Your stance on wearing masks?

Do you wear a mask?

  • Yes, I wear one all the time whenever I’m around other people.

    Votes: 172 68.3%
  • Yes, but only in stores where it is required. I remove it after leaving.

    Votes: 70 27.8%
  • No, I don’t wear a mask by personal choice.

    Votes: 6 2.4%
  • No, I am unable to wear a mask due to a medical condition.

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Other (Explain in the comments)

    Votes: 3 1.2%

  • Total voters
    252
Hi everyone. Let's attempt to continue this thread in a way that can be respectful to others. We have cleaned up a small amount of posts that were causing the thread to get a bit out of hand, but we also don't want to continuously make posts like this or have to end up locking the thread permanently.

The pandemic has affected all of us differently and it's important to remember that other people may deal with these difficult times in their own ways. Here are some important points I'd like to stress that might help us all come together to discuss this topic in a civil way:
  • It's okay if someone says that they don't like wearing masks.
  • It's okay if someone says that they think not wearing masks is selfish.
  • It's okay for someone to say they have mental health issues from wearing a mask.
  • It's okay for someone to respectfully say that they don't think masks should cause mental health issues.
  • This is not a black and white issue: Some people may be for masks, but against mask mandates. Some people may be against masks only for vaccinated people. Some people may be entirely against wearing masks or entirely for wearing masks. This isn't necessarily an us vs. them situation as there are many nuances to this discussion.
  • If someone lost a family member to COVID, suggesting some alternative or pseudo-science solution that may have helped is inappropriate and insensitive.
  • Remember that most people want what's best for them and their loved ones, even if their beliefs may clash completely with yours.
  • Avoid getting overly aggressive. Instead, try to explain your thoughts about the issue and educate people you view as incorrect.
Let's keep things civil and respectful going forward, and hopefully this pandemic will soon be behind us.
 
I still wear a mask inside as per my government regulations. Once I have my second dose, and government regulation allows me to, I will stop wearing a mask inside. I will still try to practice good hygiene - washing my hands, keeping distance when possible, etc.
 
I've had both doses of the Pfizer vaccine so I feel comfortable going out in public without a mask, however I still think that if someone isn't vaccinated then they should be wearing a mask. ofc most people here stopped wearing a mask, not sure if they are all vaccinated but considering this is Trump county I'm inclined to say no.
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I will still try to practice good hygiene - washing my hands, keeping distance when possible, etc.
I'll be keeping 6 ft away from ppl for the rest of my life lol, it's been great
 
Some more states are starting to lift the mask mandate. I’m only wearing a mask at my job simply because it’s required. I don’t think the mask mandates being lifted include Airports yet, which is where I work. I don’t think the travel agencies or companies are lifting their mandates until September last time I heard. It’s not really being enforced around the terminal anyway. There are a bunch of people walking around without masks on and I’ve never seen anyone confront them. I’m honestly not that uncomfortable if someone comes in to my job without a mask on.

I don’t think you can really tell who is vaccinated and who isn’t. I also don’t think vaccines should be required under any circumstances, but this is about masks. I still keep my work area very clean as it’s a convenient store inside the airport for passengers.
 
I think wearing a mask if you are unvaccinated and/or live in an area that is still in a dangerous level of infection is irresponsible, selfish, and anti-social. (Not to be confused with those who are vaccinated and ceasing masking in accordance with reasonable public health guidelines and local regulations) Spreading dangerous, easily disproven conspiracy theories and misinformation is also selfish and irresponsible, in my opinion. And I believe otherwise or previously decent people have been the victims of a lot of it over this stressful year, and unfortunately it has poisoned them. Anti maskers have made the news so many times for: punching flight attendants, coughing in store employees faces who try and ask them to wear a mask (which may be why some are hesitant now to enforce mandates/ requirements), physically attackint others, stabbing people, and even plott to kidnap and murder a governor.

I wonder about anyone whose worst experience in the last year was having to wear a mask. For me one of several bad experiences (and I was among the more fortunate in weathering the pandemic) was realizing how many members of society would rather pass on a potentially deadly illness to me, my infant daughter, and my cancer survivor father (or anyone else) than be slightly uncomfortable. I have a coworker who is immune compromised and due to her condition wearing a mask gives her recurring infections, but she can’t trust that other people will behave responsibly and so she has to wear one even though she shouldn’t have to. Masks are to help protect others more than they help you, and one of the responsibilities of living in a society is that you are meant to take personal responsibility and to take care of the more vulnerable members. That to me is why it is selfish to not mask, and why you can’t just say it is a personal choice. (Kind of like drunk driving or second hand smoke.)

and yes masks are safe, people in Asia wear masks regularly and have for years (decades I think) during cold and flu season. Medical professionals have routinely worn masks for hours at a time for I don’t even know how long (but probably pretty much since we understood how sterilization worked). Masks have been around for a long time and we understand them - certainly a lot better than the long term effects of COVID.

If any anti masker is out and about I prefer they not smile at me because the fact is I don’t feel like they mean well, I don’t think they are a nice person, and I don’t want any thing to do with them. If they really want to respect me and my choices, they will keep a respectful distance.

i’m sorry to be harsh, but this last year and a half (and more to be honest with everything else happening in my country) has been very disillusioning about the state of our society, and honestly it makes my heart hurt to have had to lose so much faith in the essential goodwill of so many of the members of my community, my country, and the world.

I hope this post is within bounds, I am trying to explain my position clearly without making any unnecessary or personal attacks. But I do feel strongly about this issue, and I feel justified in having those strong feelings.
 
and yes masks are safe, people in Asia wear masks regularly and have for years (decades I think) during cold and flu season. Medical professionals have routinely worn masks for hours at a time for I don’t even know how long (but probably pretty much since we understood how sterilization worked). Masks have been around for a long time and we understand them - certainly a lot better than the long term effects of COVID.
I just wanted to add you are right about East Asia-in China and Japan (especially Japan), mask-wearing is very common. In Japan, the temperatures in many areas (particularly urban areas such as Tokyo) tend to change drastically, so mask-wearing is seen as the most prudent decision.

All of this is why, once mask-wearing was required to be mandatory due to the pandemic in the United States last year, I was shocked at so much of the backlash, which I'd like to add, because I live in a red state (Alabama), I've seen it first thing. It is hard to overstate how commonplace on the political right anti-mask attitudes are, and I should also note that I have conservative Republican parents as well who have voiced their own similar viewpoints akin to this (although at least my mom seems to understand the seriousness of the virus), and like you said, this literally led this past October to a kidnapping and execution plot against the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer. MI isn't even the only state, for instance, where the right has weaponized sentiment against mask mandates and other measures against the coronavirus-you may think California is a very liberal state (and it generally is, it hasn't voted for a Republican in a presidential election since George H.W. Bush in 1988), but Governor Gavin Newsom has literally been recalled over this, all in a GOP-led effort. While I doubt Newsom will be removed from office later this year (it's anywhere from August to November when the election will be), given CA's partisan leanings, it's still a testament to how much conservatives have resisted measures that, quite frankly, were only done in the name of safety.

And yes, I should note that some countries have basically gotten by with less mask-wearing, but there was simply more prudence in terms of how the virus was seen by the public. Conservatives here in the US have pointed at how mask-wearing hasn't exactly been commonplace in Sweden since last year when the COVID-19 pandemic got bad, but it is, once again, hard to overstate the literal unwillingness of Americans to wear masks (not saying all, but a large amount of them, far more than it should be), something that pretty much doesn't happen in any other country (sans the United Kingdom, and even then, in the UK, I'd say it doesn't quite happen to the same extent). Two of the countries I consider to have handled the pandemic the best-South Korea and New Zealand-have largely done away with mask mandates, but that's because their political leaders, such as South Korea's president, Moon Jae-in, and New Zealand's prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, managed to keep case numbers in their respective countries so low because they trusted science-and from an American perspective, while it seems like Joe Biden now trusts science, Donald Trump most assuredly did not and horribly mishandled the pandemic. (Just to clarify, South Korea and New Zealand are two of the four, thus half, of the countries I think handled the pandemic best, the others being Taiwan and Iceland, although the situation in Taiwan had worsened lately as Tsai Ing-wen, the Taiwanese president, had basically relaxed lockdown restrictions too early, nevertheless, it's still impressive Taiwan managed to keep its case numbers so low, as the pandemic first started in China, which neighbors Taiwan, which also meant Taiwan was almost certainly going to get cases of the coronavirus very soon after the pandemic's first reported cases in Wuhan)

Admittedly I'm getting more long-winded here than I expected, but the situation from country-to-country is very telling about case numbers and how masks and lockdown orders in general played a role. They were key in nations like South Korea, Taiwan, and New Zealand keeping their amounts of cases of COVID-19 low. On the other hand, as an example of a country in a contrasting situation, my boyfriend is from Brazil. The Brazilian president, Jair Bolsonaro, told people not to wear masks, not to social distance, and refused to do lockdown orders. Now, Brazil is one of two countries (the other being India, which had a similar situation) being hit the worst by the pandemic with record numbers of deaths of Brazilians. The Brazilian and Indian medical systems are both on the brink of collapse. Japan runs a similar risk because of the, in my opinion, imprudent decision to decide to still host the Tokyo Summer Olympics (after the virus had already gotten them delayed from last year) in the middle of a pandemic. It is hard to understate the consequences that come with one's decision making when you have a virus as contagious as COVID-19 spreading.
 
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@WaileaNoRei, I think you shared your thoughts eloquently and I agree with everything you've said.

To add my own two cents, the pandemic has made me hyper aware of cultural differences between the East and West. I was born in Asia but grew up in North America. Eastern cultures are generally centered more around the concept of collectivism (you are a part of a larger community -- be it your family, neighbourhood, country, etc., though I would argue even this is changing due to influences from Western culture), whereas Western culture is more centered around individualism. I don't think neither is better or worse than the other because context changes everything, and I think in most cases, a balance and consideration of both is healthy and necessary for a society and its people to function well and sustainably.

However, I will say that there are circumstances where one mindset is more appropriate than the other... like a global pandemic, where one's personal decisions can have grave consequences on themselves or others.

My parents are getting up there in age, and I have multiple friends working as nurses. So in the meantime, I will continue wearing my mask given the rare occasion when I need to venture outside.
 
While I may be fully vaccinated, I still wear my mask when I go outside just because I'm so used to it, and realistically it isn't hurting me. I'm probably going to stop wearing it when the mask mandate ends in my state (June 28th or whenever 70% of the adult population is vaccinated). Before I was vaccinated, however, I wore it all the time and practically refused to take it off, I didn't go out to eat ever, I wouldn't drink or eat anything outside unless I was at home, I didn't go to parties, I didn't see many friends, I could go on. I rarely get sick and I wanted to keep it that way, I wouldn't want to chance it with a pandemic causing disease, plus I like my sense of smell and taste as well as not having likely permanent neurological problems due to the virus.
Personally, I think being an anti-masker is selfish for reasons already said in this thread multiple times, not being able to handle a minor inconvenience due to a LITERAL PANDEMIC really shows how you are as a person, and I will "socially distance" from those type of people for as long as I can, same with those who wore their masks incorrectly since that just honestly makes you look ridiculous.
 
You see what I mean, nothing makes sense. That's why I refuse to do it. I feel that it's basically dog training at this point, governments seeing how much power they can get away with. If the whole mask and vaccine was as good as they say it is then this should have been over quickly right? Instead there's mentions of variants and boosters shots, like give me a break. I just want to get on with life you know?
"If the whole mask and vaccine was as good as they say it is then this should have been over quickly right?"
I do agree with the mask part. If masks were effective as they are made out to be, then cases would have have started at least somewhat decreasing when the mandates started (of course there are always people who chose not to wear masks, but this was a small percentage when the mandates were in full force). However, I am gonna have to disagree with the part of you implying that the vaccines are ineffective. Why do you think cases are the lowest they've been in over a year? We wouldn't have these low numbers if it wasn't for the vaccine. I am not at all trying to force you to get the vaccine, but I would like for you to not underestimate these vaccines.

The reason it is still a process is for the following reasons:
1. The vaccine is not available or as accessible in poorer countries.
2. The vaccine is not yet available to certain age groups in certain places.
3. People are scared of it/are willingly refusing to get it.
4. People have some other reason why they cannot get it.

I actually fall under Reason #4. I meant to get my first dose back on June 4th, when my dad and my brother did, but I couldn't because I didn't have any form of ID. My dad even tried talking to the receptionist. I will be getting a government ID pretty soon at the DMV, but this may be not for a couple of months or so, since my dad is planning to do take me down at the same time my brother gets his driver's license (that way we can get them both done at the same time, without having to go back there twice).




"I just want to get on with life you know?"
I feel you. We all just want our life back. It's a shame we had to put our life on hold for this whole thing. But the good news is...cases are lower than they have been in a long while, and some places are starting to open back up. We just need the vaccine to be rolled out to age groups in places that are still ineligible, and for people to face their fears of the vaccine, and things will continue to get better.
 
I actually fall under Reason #4. I meant to get my first dose back on June 4th, when my dad and my brother did, but I couldn't because I didn't have any form of ID. My dad even tried talking to the receptionist. I will be getting a government ID pretty soon at the DMV, but this may be not for a couple of months or so, since my dad is planning to do take me down at the same time my brother gets his driver's license (that way we can get them both done at the same time, without having to go back there twice).
Reasons like these are why I oppose voter ID laws. Just bringing that up as that's also been a major issue in the United States since the 2020 election, since so many Republicans claim Donald Trump lost re-election to Joe Biden because of voter fraud.

Also, I'd like to add, on Shawna's first point of "The vaccine is not available or as accessible in poorer countries", this is sadly still very true. Nigeria is another example of a country that has been having a massive increase in coronavirus cases recently, and it's largely having to do with wealth issues. Many African nations may be in a crisis because of this.
 
I just wanted to add:

Another country I found out that has had a recent surge in COVID-19 cases is Russia. The thing to note about Russia is that, like countries such as India and Brazil (and the United States when Donald Trump was still president), very few lockdowns, mask mandates, or social distancing requirements were commonplace. This understandably has led to much criticism of Vladimir Putin (if you get to know me, you quickly realize I have almost nothing positive to say about Putin), but the thing is, sadly, is that it's pretty obvious Vladimir Putin is a dictator. India and Brazil, despite the fact that they have unfortunately experienced democratic backsliding under their leaders (I already mentioned the situation with Brazil's president, Jair Bolsonaro, but India has sadly experienced it as well under its prime minister, Narendra Modi, who has been in office since 2014, so India has had some time to unfortunately get its democracy undone), are at least still democracies, but even if Russia has "elections", Russia is almost certainly not a democracy, with the elections basically being for show, are shams, and there is even footage from the last Russian president election in 2018 showing ballot boxes being stuffed by election officials and it's believed these ballots were marked with votes for Putin. Of course, it's already worth mentioning that much of the opposition currently festering among some Russians in 2021 to Vladimir Putin has to do with the recent arrest of Alexei Navalny, after Navalny was literally poisoned this past August and had been taken to Germany for treatment.

Also editing to add: it's no coincidence that India, Brazil, and Russia are all led by right-wing populists. Hell, the US was being led by one until Trump got voted out in favor of Joe Biden.
 
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