Mafia American Politics Mafia - Game Over - Town Wins!

[amazonevan19]

Tbh your last line (about determining whether or not we can trust Bianca's messages) has convinced me to switch to Locket

I am almost certain I'll switch, but I have one last doubt.

Byngo is the only one who knows who her messenger is. Let's say Locket is lynched and flips town, we know Bianca's is probably scum and/or full of ****. If Byngo does not divulge the identity of her sender, and she dies in the night, then we are left with no way to check against Bianca's messenger.

I totally get why Byngo doesn't want to out it. The sender explicitly requested not to have their identity published, and it'd be dumb to post the name of someone who's probably blue. We all know how much I don't want blues to out unless absolutely necessary.

So maybe Byngo can wait until like the very last minute of the night phase, post the name before the thread is locked, and then we go from there or something. (basically to prevent mafs from switching their kill to Byngo's messenger)

Ofc all of this is predicated on Locket being town. If Locket is scum then Byngo's messenger could have their credibility questioned. Cuz two town sided messengers is way too much. One has to be scum imo.

So unless we can figure out (or Byngo divulges) at least SOMETHING about the message they got (at this point I just want to know the second part they said, that'd be fine, not the name), I'm hesitant to vote locket. The fact we don't even know what Byngo's message tried to communicate aside from "don't out me" is a bit strange. Evidently it could be important enough info for only the messenger and Byngo's eyes only

 

[glow]

lol how is my line about suspecting one of the two miller claims abhorrent when one of them is the person you're railing against hard?

I never said I thought toads was town. Don't know where you're coming from with this post glow.

yeah ngl my post was convoluted asf

but my point = there's just no sussing Vanessa in this situation

if you don't think he's town then why are you trying to save him from a lynch when he's the most optimal lynch

 

[Heyden]

I understand Dad voting Locket for her behaviour, but if you guys are only really considering her over the message then you should honestly reevaluate.

Why on earth are we even trusting Bianca's messenger in the first place. It was received from an anonymous person, someone TYPED the message up and sent it to her as far as we know, opposed to an actual host based message, and you guys wanna lynch her to 'test it out XD'. To me the Locket lynch is 50/50 rn, like I won't be angry if she's lynched I'm just a tad annoyed cos idk where it's all coming from.

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Considering I proposed that Locket should be lynched day 1 and me getting this message, I have no intention of keeping this from everyone even if it means I'll be sussed to death.

Like look here, if mafia is in fact the one who sent the message, it makes sense bc Bianca was anti-Locket D1, and poor Bianca has seem to have fallen for the trap given she's voting Locket for today lol.

 

[Geoni]

I believe that was Byngo, Heyden. Bianca was saying her's was more of a traditional looking inspection result provided by the host.

if you don't think he's town then why are you trying to save him from a lynch when he's the most optimal lynch

Because Locket will reveal more but I think she'll flip mafia.

 

[toadsworthy]

why this amount of apathy like i mean

how can u say "the only sketchy thing i did was claim" when you literally admitted to acting weird the whole game? word for word you said you claimed because you knew you were acting weird

I said the sketchiest thing I did was claim, not the only sketchy thing I did was claim. Literally word for word. You're painting me as a liar and worse person than I am, because you just really want my lynch. And it's misreadings like this that has made me so apathetic

 

[cornimer]

Ik its a risk to lynch Locket, I personally find it hard to believe she is scum but if we learn that the source of Bianca's message is reliable, that could be a huuuge asset to us. Not to mention if we don't lynch Locket, we'll just spend tomorrow debating whether we can trust the next nights message as well

 

[amazonevan19]

I understand Dad voting Locket for her behaviour, but if you guys are only really considering her over the message then you should honestly reevaluate.

Why on earth are we even trusting Bianca's messenger in the first place. It was received from an anonymous person, someone TYPED the message up and sent it to her as far as we know, opposed to an actual host based message, and you guys wanna lynch her to 'test it out XD'. To me the Locket lynch is 50/50 rn, like I won't be angry if she's lynched I'm just a tad annoyed cos idk where it's all coming from.

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Like look here, if mafia is in fact the one who sent the message, it makes sense bc Bianca was anti-Locket D1, and poor Bianca has seem to have fallen for the trap given she's voting Locket for today lol.

I get why you'd not like that reasoning, but Vanessa and I have both stated reasons outside of the message that warrant a Locket vote. The thing is, Byngo's messenger has a 280 character limit and Byngo knows who they are. This point to the messenger being Trump, and so far town roles have been Republicans.

So I'm inclined to disbelieve Bianca's messenger from the get-go, but Locket's fishy enough that I would not be salty if she was lynched.

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*points to

 

[Heyden]

so did it say something like;
#1 You received an anonymous message; Locket is mafia
or
#2 Night result; Locket is mafia

#1

Bianca's message was typed sent via a person in the game, not host automated.

Yes maybe Locket is in fact scum, but if a townie actually sent that, then eat **** for stirring chaos.

 

[amazonevan19]

well ****, both toads and vanessa have flipped to locket and it's making me really queasy cuz they're both scumleans of mine

It'd make total sense if Dad was the spy, sent the locket message, and now they're all attempting a brigade on Locket. Though I don't have much reason to suspect dad so hmmm who else was sussing locket?

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Bianca's message was typed sent via a person in the game, not host automated.

Yes maybe Locket is in fact scum, but if a townie actually sent that, then eat **** for stirring chaos.

but if it was an oracle revelation...ugh

Oracle and spy would be weird. In my epicmafia experience it's almost always agent/spy, or just a spy alone, in setups. But who knows, this is a setup unlike any other apparently

 

[Biancasbotique]

I understand Dad voting Locket for her behaviour, but if you guys are only really considering her over the message then you should honestly reevaluate.

Why on earth are we even trusting Bianca's messenger in the first place. It was received from an anonymous person, someone TYPED the message up and sent it to her as far as we know, opposed to an actual host based message, and you guys wanna lynch her to 'test it out XD'. To me the Locket lynch is 50/50 rn, like I won't be angry if she's lynched I'm just a tad annoyed cos idk where it's all coming from.

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Like look here, if mafia is in fact the one who sent the message, it makes sense bc Bianca was anti-Locket D1, and poor Bianca has seem to have fallen for the trap given she's voting Locket for today lol.

Well I am very much aware that I might be falling into a trap but oh well live and learn right

 

[Geoni]

^I'm still in between a spy vs agent theory or a unique role similar to caroler but spread out. Byngo needs to be out with her information because at this point not knowing it is not helping at all. The fact that somebody was willing to try and fit it all in a character number with her but not with Bianca is what I think suggests two different people.

I'll also note that Rune has been lurky af.

 

[Biancasbotique]

Byngo, can you tell us if the message is pertaining to identity of mafia or even a hint of who might be mafia.

 

[Geoni]

well ****, both toads and vanessa have flipped to locket and it's making me really queasy cuz they're both scumleans of mine

It'd make total sense if Dad was the spy, sent the locket message, and now they're all attempting a brigade on Locket. Though I don't have much reason to suspect dad so hmmm who else was sussing locket?

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but if it was an oracle revelation...ugh

Oracle and spy would be weird. In my epicmafia experience it's almost always agent/spy, or just a spy alone, in setups. But who knows, this is a setup unlike any other apparently

Before I started sussing her and before all the messenger business, I recall Waffles having a gut feeling about both Locket and myself that she didn't want to explain. Can't recall anyone else suspecting her.

 

[Byngo]

honestly, im still confused aover the motivation behind the message i received, especially considering who it came from

ugh idk if im being dumb about this

 

[Biancasbotique]

I would be so mad if Locket is Jester

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Mk so my computer still isn't working, brief skimming makes me want to lynch Locket, will thoroughly read and explain later, just going to post in the voting thread.

 

[Byngo]

no my message didn’t hint towards any mafia

 

[Biancasbotique]

honestly, im still confused aover the motivation behind the message i received, especially considering who it came from

ugh idk if im being dumb about this

But can you just tell us in general if the message is even about any of the scum or mafia or just another kind of message?

I don't think you will be breaching confidentiality if you do

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no my message didn’t hint towards any mafia

so your message is not intended to influence town ?

 

[PunchyTheCat]

honestly, im still confused aover the motivation behind the message i received, especially considering who it came from

ugh idk if im being dumb about this

Byngo, I really want to know, is the person that you're talking about Locket?

 

[Byngo]

ok here’s the thing, if you hear the main part of the message, ur gonna think “lol that’s def scum messaging you” BUT if you knew who it came from it wouldn’t be so clear