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[Jacob]

if he really was a Miller he would have kept it hidden a while longer to see if a cop actually did mention investigating him.

It sounds like you know that he really isn't a Miller

:thinking:

 

[N e s s]

It sounds like you know that he really isn't a Miller

:thinking:

!!!!Oh no u got me!!!!!

please, i'm typing this up quickly on my phone; you understand the point I'm trying to make.

 

[glow]

Food for thought: If Toads were mafia, why would he claim Self Aware Miller of all things. I mean seriously, who here remembers the Starrywolf incident from Smash Mafia 1? If he were Mafia, I want to say that he would claim something a little more convincing? (like...a blue role lol)

Townie claims usually don't save a scum player when they're close to the lynch unless a miracle happens...I kinda feel like Toads would know that.

my opinion on his claim is that

1. what benefit does town have from claiming miller daystart? if he's town, what's the point of claiming before the voting thread is even opened? if he's town, he'd just be narrowing down prs and claiming miller after cop investigated someone already (pointless). if toads had claimed at night it'd be at least understandable (he was widely sus'd, as real miller you don't want to be checked)

2. what benefit does third party have from claiming miller? the only plausible answer imo would be jester. but dad made a really good point.. why would he campaign for prez as jester

i think regardless of the claim he's still the best lynch, also if he flips town then vanessa is likely town as well.

 

[Byngo]

I was doing quick skimming of posts. I gathered mostly null from Toads until I took a closer look at a few of his posts.

it’s still a pretty short time to go from what appeared a null-slight townlean to hard scumlean

 

[toadsworthy]

The sketchiest thing I did was claim Miller... if I had safe claims, why would I choose Miller? Knowing the battle in front of me. Two millers is reasonable thinking about this set up with masons and a cop. I'm not gonna point out the actual scumminess of several others because it's followed by 3 posts of people to criticize my every word. Better to lynch me than some blue role at this point too, so whatever

 

[Geoni]

I like how Jacob is not even acknowledging what I brought up about him and his response to the Bianca whisper and just continues to think that there must be a 'top tier' player as godfather and that glow and I must be that person.

Locket only seems more hesitant.

And BYNGO PLS

 

[Byngo]

pls what

what r ur thoughts on my idea since it’s getting ignored by everyone else

 

[Jacob]

I'm not gonna point out the actual scumminess of several others because it's followed by 3 posts of people to criticize my every word.

Tru

Better to lynch me than some blue role at this point too, so whatever

Is Miller not blue, are you implying that you're actually not a blue role? :thinking:

(Real Question: Is Miller a blue role?)
(Real Question: Is critiquing wording effective or annoying?)

 

[Geoni]

pls what

what r ur thoughts on my idea since it’s getting ignored by everyone else

I wanna know what your message was? Because I don't recall you revealing it but I did read my eyes dry this morning after work.

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btw your idea was lynching between the miller claims right Byngo? I don't think people are ignoring that necessarily.

 

[Byngo]

the sender told me who they were and then asked not to reveal the message so

 

[Heyden]

Miller flips black (but town aligned)

 

[Byngo]

and yes that was crammed into the allowed 280 characters

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I wanna know what your message was? Because I don't recall you revealing it but I did read my eyes dry this morning after work.

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btw your idea was lynching between the miller claims right Byngo? I don't think people are ignoring that necessarily.

I mean my idea that toad and locket r bussing eachither

 

[Geoni]

the sender told me who they were and then asked not to reveal the message so

In a No-PM game?

 

[N e s s]

2. what benefit does third party have from claiming miller? the only plausible answer imo would be jester. but dad made a really good point.. why would he campaign for prez as jester

And that is something else that is making me question whether he actually is a 3rd party. I clearly had the ability to have a different win condition (jester myself) if I had wanted to correct? Well, who is to say that there is a 3rd party out there that doesn't have branching win conditions like me?

I find it unlikely, but a pet theory I had is this: Say Toads for whatever reason wanted the presidency for a different reason that would enable something for him. Maybe like upon gaining presidency, he would become SK or something. This could explain why he wanted to be president so eagerly without even really having a good reason for it. I can him having his chances of presidency fall to 0, and decides that he would go for a different win condition, which I speculate would have to be Jester.

Again this is kinda far fetched, but I feel like its a possibility due to the strangeness of my own role that I could see something similar. But either way, I would bet more on him being mafia then this being what is actually happening.

 

[Jacob]

1.

I like how Jacob is not even acknowledging what I brought up about him and his response to the Bianca whisper

I ignored it because I didn't understand what you were saying because I'm stupid

"wouldn't Bianca being the fabrication option also be too obvious? If mafia wanted their fabricated whisper to lead to a lynch then they'd whisper it to somebody like Ness. Again, I think there's a randomized element to whatever role is responsible.

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This makes me dislike Jacob's intermission even more."

Like what intermission are you even referring to. I have a **** memory. Glow was the one who originally thought it was a whisper, and anything I commented on about it was just in light of possibility. Personally I got the impression that someone inspected Locket and it was sent to Bianca for whatever reason, maybe it was part of the inspectors role, maybe it was a redirector role I really don't know

2.

and just continues to think that there must be a 'top tier' player as godfather and that glow and I must be that person.

Yes because this has proven to be true in legitimately almost every game I've ever played. Using a method to find scum isn't scummy

Again: idk if you're actually confused about this or if I'm reading and interpreting your messages wrong, godfather doesn't refer to the role.

 

[Byngo]

In a No-PM game?

see the post above urs

 

[Jacob]

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Also I don't understand why you're fixated on that response, you didn't even ask me any type of question

 

[Geoni]

SU2 had oracle:

Oracle
Once each night you can send the alignment of one person of your choice to another player ingame, who is randomly chosen by host.
Considered fragile by everyone, you have one bulletproof/extra life. You cannot use this action on the same person twice in a row, or yourself.

Although I'm not sure why someone would purposely send Bianca someone's alignment, no offense. There's mafia intention for giving sending it to her, if not chosen randomly.

I also did some other research on reasons for receiving an anon message about a players alignment, It's probably a redirection of an investigation result but those are the only 2 slightly common possibilities.

Talking about this Jacob.

Edit: Got this backwards, Bianca would've been chosen randomly*

Because I don't know what it is you're referring to here.

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Yes because this has proven to be true in legitimately almost every game I've ever played. Using a method to find scum isn't scummy
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I just find it really pointed that you narrow it down to two people as if there aren't a number of other people in this game who have also at least played 20+ games. Although that's my rough estimate. Byngo, Heyden, Waffles, you (?), Toads, I'm pretty sure the lot of you have played around that number. And I don't scumread glow yet but I don't townread her either, so forgive me if I'm not a fan of this idea being promoted.

 

[Jacob]

Talking about this Jacob.
Because I don't know what it is you're referring to here.

Oh oh I see

When I was referring to the oracle role if it applied to bianca, I got the actual role confused. I asked: "Although I'm not sure why someone would purposely send Bianca someone's alignment." because I thought the oracle chose who gets the message (bianca) and Locket would've been the one randomly chosen for inspection by the host.

But then I realized my mistake when I said: "Edit: Got this backwards, Bianca would've been chosen randomly*" I meant that the oracle would've actually chosen Locket to be inspected, and Bianca would've been chosen randomly to receive the inspection


I think I answered it?? I'm all confused now again

 

[Geoni]

see the post above urs

Just explain it to me fam. I see something regarding a character limit but that's not a full explanation.