Mafia American Politics Mafia - Game Over - Town Wins!

[Jacob]

I just find it really pointed that you narrow it down to two people as if there aren't a number of other people in this game who have also at least played 20+ games. Although that's my rough estimate. Byngo, Heyden, Waffles, you (?), Toads, I'm pretty sure the lot of you have played around that number. And I don't scumread glow yet but I don't townread her either, so forgive me if I'm not a fan of this idea being promoted.

I get that, but for some reason there's the factor of technical intelligence, maturity, proper grammar, and leadership that separates the best players from the players who merely have a lot of games played. Every scum team needs a leader, and it sucks that our knowledge of each other's abilities is a tell for who could be mafia, but without it you guys would be OP, considering how hard it actually is to find scum tells in players like you.

 

[Geoni]

Also gonna search for what glow said if she was the first to bring that up about Bianca because I don't like it and it seems like something scum would do.

 

[Byngo]

Just explain it to me fam. I see something regarding a character limit but that's not a full explanation.

explain what

what do you not understand lmao

 

[Geoni]

I get that, but for some reason there's the factor of technical intelligence, maturity, proper grammar, and leadership that separates the best players from the players who merely have a lot of games played. Every scum team needs a leader, and it sucks that our knowledge of each other's abilities is a tell for who could be mafia, but without it you guys would be OP, considering how hard it actually is to find scum tells in players like you.

Your play so far has all of those qualities. Heyden and Byngo are demonstrating all but the grammar. Lowkey though I hate this because I agree with it and think the same way in a lot of games but I'm a townie and I'm very much not sure about glow either.

But the choices of Dolby and Tina stand out in conjunction with this idea being used against glow and I as 'godfathers', which is why I find it suspect in terms of being a deliberate thing to be brought up.

 

[Jacob]

Went back and did a search myself to fact check

Turns out she was the third one to bring it up, so I guess I missed the first two times. But I didn't think of her saying it in a scummy way, when I saw the role whisperer in her post I immediately looked it up because I didn't really know about the role, thats all.

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wait what, is this some kind of town whisperer or smth. what kind of role sends anonymous messages through the night
can u tell us what it said or at least the general gist

This is the first suggestion of whisperer.

 

[Geoni]

the sender told me who they were and then asked not to reveal the message so

or is this what you were referring to Byngo?

 

[Byngo]

or is this what you were referring to Byngo?

yes

i mentioned this already but the person that sent it shortened all the words to fit as much in as possible

 

[Geoni]

And Jacob, I mean was glow the first one to suggest that Bianca's whisper is fabricated? Because it was given to Bianca of all people, which you seemed to deem a low tier player when you said 'no offense'.

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yes

i mentioned this already but the person that sent it shortened all the words to fit as much in as possible

Okay. So I'm still not seeing a reason to see why the person who was whispered to be mafia shouldn't also be mentioned in order to compare them to Locket.

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Sounds like two different roles though, based on how it was given to the player, so yeah it is admittedly confusing even to me.

 

[Jacob]

And Jacob, I mean was glow the first one to suggest that Bianca's whisper is fabricated? Because it was given to Bianca of all people, which you seemed to deem a low tier player when you said 'no offense'.

Technically yea:

lmao

first of all why are any of you assuming that

1. the whisperer is town

and even if you did assume that, why are you assuming that

 

[Geoni]

Locket is really weird for an oracle/Detective to choose to investigate imo...

Oh and then there's this. I completely missed this.

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You're right about glow now that I am reading back, what she stated there could also have been a move to protect Locket, but you've demonstrated the same, so I lump you together in that behavior. People are going to hate me and accuse me of going after a weak player but I want Locket lynched the most so far.

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tbh I could see a Locket/glow/Rune team, maybe one of those two millers as the fourth? Or Waffles/Heyden.

 

[Jacob]

Oh and then there's this. I completely missed this.

Mmm yea, I was merely thinking out loud.
If you find that alarming (not really trying to protect her in the least bit honestly, just trying to understand what had happened and why), I have already been questioned about it [here] and responded to that [here]

 

[Geoni]

Mmm yea, I was merely thinking out loud.
If you find that alarming (not really trying to protect her in the least bit honestly, just trying to understand what had happened and why), I have already been questioned about it [here] and responded to that [here]

I've read up on that and it can still be a response that can be seen as protective of Locket.

 

[Heyden]

Okay buy Byngo, do you trust/feel that the person who sent you the message is town or can you not tell.

From how I see it, Locket scumreading Bianca/Byngo over the messages could easily be interpreted as a town OR mafia panic situation, especially since she's still considered a noob. IMO I don't see there being 2 town messengers, more like 1 mafia 1 town. So if Byngo's messenger is likely town, then Bianca's messenger is probably maf from my POV, and Locket's panic is in fact genuine town. Ofc this is all very subjective but just a thought.

Also I feel very iffy on how everyone's piled onto Toads very fast but his game is very weak rn, I'd be pretty disappointed if he's town. Claims aside, I've looked at past games and still scumread him regardless so.

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but*

 

[Geoni]

I can see a 1 town messenger 1 scum messenger thing being in the game too. But I don't read Locket's reaction as town. But I also want to see how the other person mentioned to Byngo reacts.

If you felt good about Locket being town and have that theory one would think you'd be eager to know what Byngo was told, Heyden.

 

[Jacob]

I've read up on that and it can still be a response that can be seen as protective of Locket.

Eh I guess yea, my thought process was in a different place from what you're seeing but I guess I can see why you think that

 

[amazonevan19]

it's pretty tough to try and figure out if the locket message is true if byngo won't spill about her message, but w/e

Cuz either Byngo's messenger is town and Bianca's is maf, or it's vice versa. I am pretty sure that there's an agent and a spy in this game, otherwise there'd be no two messages. (That or Bianca/Byngo are making up their message to sow discord, but why is beyond me)

I might switch to locket, because her panic could be either alignment, and if she flips scum, we know that Bianca's messenger is probably an oracle and not a mafia spy. If she's town, then we can pretty much disregard any message we get from that person

 

[glow]

Oh and then there's this. I completely missed this.

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You're right about glow now that I am reading back, what she stated there could also have been a move to protect Locket, but you've demonstrated the same, so I lump you together in that behavior. People are going to hate me and accuse me of going after a weak player but I want Locket lynched the most so far.

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tbh I could see a Locket/glow/Rune team, maybe one of those two millers as the fourth? Or Waffles/Heyden.

lmao. there?s no way to determine if the message bianca received (which i do believe exists) is from a town or mafia sided role. all it said was ?night results? which could mean anything.

your line about sussing "one in the miller claims" is abhorrent. if you think i?m mafia then both of them are town. if you think one is town then you have to think they?re both town. vanessa?s reaction was way, way, too genuine to be mafia claiming. what reason would mafia even claim miller if town was claiming miller. unless you think they're both mafia which is equally a bad read.

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also dad, quote one towny line that toads has made all game and i'll self vote

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ignore the "if you think one is town then they're both town"(that made no sense)

what i meant was if you think one is town it literally has to be Vanessa.

 

[cornimer]

it's pretty tough to try and figure out if the locket message is true if byngo won't spill about her message, but w/e

Cuz either Byngo's messenger is town and Bianca's is maf, or it's vice versa. I am pretty sure that there's an agent and a spy in this game, otherwise there'd be no two messages. (That or Bianca/Byngo are making up their message to sow discord, but why is beyond me)

I might switch to locket, because her panic could be either alignment, and if she flips scum, we know that Bianca's messenger is probably an oracle and not a mafia spy. If she's town, then we can pretty much disregard any message we get from that person

Tbh your last line (about determining whether or not we can trust Bianca's messages) has convinced me to switch to Locket

 

[Geoni]

lol how is my line about suspecting one of the two miller claims abhorrent when one of them is the person you're railing against hard?

I never said I thought toads was town. Don't know where you're coming from with this post glow.

 

[glow]

The sketchiest thing I did was claim Miller... if I had safe claims, why would I choose Miller? Knowing the battle in front of me. Two millers is reasonable thinking about this set up with masons and a cop. I'm not gonna point out the actual scumminess of several others because it's followed by 3 posts of people to criticize my every word. Better to lynch me than some blue role at this point too, so whatever

why this amount of apathy like i mean

how can u say "the only sketchy thing i did was claim" when you literally admitted to acting weird the whole game? word for word you said you claimed because you knew you were acting weird