I am done with Nintendo for this generation

It's gotten to the point where if a new game comes out, I look at reviews before buying. That has saved me from so many disappointing games. It's just sad. Of course there were bad games back then too but I feel like there's just so many more half baked games these days and with their high price tag, it makes it all worse. It's as if you're searching for a needle in a haystack.
I agree with you. Like I know alot of people say that it is just nostalgia, but there are old games that I have never played until recent, and they are better than most new games today. I don't think it is nostalgia, but rather, more thought and care were put into older games.
Also, you may already be aware, but Valve does have a console now that works with the Steam store called the Steam Deck if you end up finding yourself gravitating to the Steam store more for gaming. It is a great option if you don't have a gaming PC but want one.
 
I agree with you. Like I know alot of people say that it is just nostalgia, but there are old games that I have never played until recent, and they are better than most new games today. I don't think it is nostalgia, but rather, more thought and care were put into older games.
Also, you may already be aware, but Valve does have a console now that works with the Steam store called the Steam Deck if you end up finding yourself gravitating to the Steam store more for gaming. It is a great option if you don't have a gaming PC but want one.
Ah! That's right! Thanks for the reminder! I meant to check out the Steam Deck when it was announced but didn't really hear anything afterwards and forgot about it lol. Definitely going to consider buying one.
 
Although I do like the Switch, I don't think it holds up very well against the other consoles out there. I've already got drifting problems on my joy-con, even though I'm very gentle with my gaming consoles. And the games... It feels like Nintendo are rushing a lot of them out, or maybe they've gone with the 'well, the fans will lap it up anyway' attitude. There are still some great games, don't get me wrong - Luigi's Mansion 3 is one of my favourite games of all time - but a lot feel uninspired, and unfinished.
Switch versions of games are so expensive and it's like... why? Its framerate is less, graphics not as good, and some will lag. I don't understand why anyone would buy the Switch version unless it's the only console they have. Yet Nintendo charges up the wall.
This is a huge reason why I don't care much for the console. The versatility of it is fantastic, but it's not worth the extra money when everything is taken into account.
Example: one game that I was looking at cost £34.99 on Switch, or just £14.99 on PS4. The PS4 version, according to those who owned both versions, was superior in both graphics and frame rate. The Switch was incapable of handling the game at full power, apparently. I ended up just buying the PS4 version.
 
Actually really understandable. I'm currently using my Switch, but only for Legends Arceus since I just bought it. All of the other games I spent tons of hours on (ACNH, MK8) are now collecting dust. Hope to get into ACNH sometime in the future, but right now I'm just not feeling it lol.

Ever since I got a laptop upgrade, I've been buying more PC games. I also got the Xbox Pass ($2.5/mo is a crazy good deal) and it's expanded my game library so much. Idk, Switch-only games are terribly expensive, and there a lot of PC games I have yet to explore.

I also must comment on how even Nintendo's exclusives aren't really doing it for me anymore.
This, this, basically this. I agree with your whole post, but your very first statement really struck with me. Pokemon used to be one of the main reasons why I would get a Nintendo console, but after Gen 5 I slowly stopped caring about the franchise. ACNH gave me a good reason to play with the Switch, but once I felt content with my island, I couldn't find the drive to continue anymore. The rest of the Nintedo exclusives were the "I'll buy these when I get the money" kind, but so much more cheap (and arguably better) games are on PC that it's hard to get back into Nintendo.
 
Honestly, I think the 3DS was better than Switch just for the access to more classic games. It's nice that we finally have the Switch Online offerings...but they are still quite limited. I had a lot of the virtual console stuff on 3DS...plus you could still play the whole DS library as well. And I tend to think that 3DS just felt nicer to play. It had great customization for the home menu. The stylus was still a thing. The 3D was a gimmick, but I always loved it. Anyway...I'm rambling now. I just had an opinion on the "Switch is the best Nintendo console since the NES" comment. Lol.

That said, I love Switch. It's a truly wonderful thing. I still play it daily.
 
It happened again folks. I almost was suckered into buying Trails of Cold Steel 3 and 4 on Switch because, for once, they were cheaper than the Steam options. I read reviews on performance and low and behold, the port sucks. It apparently crashes and has framerate issues (obviously the graphics are pretty poopy too). Guess I'm buying them on Steam after all! You seriously can't not do research on games before you buy anymore. I almost bought the Danganronpa trilogy on Switch too until I read that 2 and 3 have issues that make them virtually unplayable. Like wtf?

Persona 5 is coming out on Switch and since that's the only gaming platform my sister has, I am hyped to have her join in on the franchise. However, I have little to no hope that the Switch port will be good. Guess we'll see!
 
It happened again folks. I almost was suckered into buying Trails of Cold Steel 3 and 4 on Switch because, for once, they were cheaper than the Steam options. I read reviews on performance and low and behold, the port sucks. It apparently crashes and has framerate issues (obviously the graphics are pretty poopy too). Guess I'm buying them on Steam after all! You seriously can't not do research on games before you buy anymore. I almost bought the Danganronpa trilogy on Switch too until I read that 2 and 3 have issues that make them virtually unplayable. Like wtf?

Persona 5 is coming out on Switch and since that's the only gaming platform my sister has, I am hyped to have her join in on the franchise. However, I have little to no hope that the Switch port will be good. Guess we'll see!
Yeah I'd wait for reviews on switch persona5. Even if the console runs the game ok, you have the issue of Nintendo's online service not working out. That seems to be the issue with TMNT shredders revenge switch players.
 
It makes complete sense if people are done with the Switch after five years. 😊

I'm happy that I'm still using my Switch frequently! I fortunately haven't had any issues like Joycon drifting or latency with my Switch, Switch Lite or second Joycon set. I played daily in the early days of ACNH and Pokemon Sword, but now I play something 3-5 times a week, depending on what else is going on.

There are still things I'm definitely interested in doing on Switch - still playing ACNH but less frequently, just started a new game of Pokémon Shield, still have the last level of Kirby and the Forgotten Land to finish, and wouldn't mind finishing Kirby Star Allies. I'll also occasionally play Mario Kart Deluxe 8 and Switch Sports too.

I haven't been interested in many of the independent titles for Switch, and there aren't many Nintendo titles being released at the moment. I never played Splatoon 2, but I'm looking forward to trying Splatoon 3 in September though!
 
When I saw the title of this thread, I was worried, because these kind of things never herald stuff other than someone angrily going “NINTENDO BETRAYED ME” in a way that’s way, way past criticism and edging into crankery, but this is just “the Switch is getting a little old, I’m done with it”, which I can respect, tbh

Tbh, this year, Splatoon 3 and Nintendo Switch Sports aside, seems generally kinda meh and full of gaps compared to the genuinely kinda dazzling 2021 line-up (seriously, you’ve got revivals of stuff like Famicom Detective Club, Warioware and Big Brain Academy, Metroid Dread actually happening, a remake of one of my favourite Pokémon games, and a port of one of the best Wii U games), so I’m feeling a little burnt out myself, but at the same time, I still think the next Nintendo console is still a little way off. A couple of years at the earliest, 3-5 years away at the very latest.

I’ll believe a 4K Switch/successor when I see it. Nintendo have still barely adjusted to HD development after a decade, given the tricks they’re pulling to get games out regularly, you really think we’re going to get Nintendo making 4K games right now?

(Which reminds me, I’m not especially on Team Nintendo Has Gotten Worse Since Iwata Died/The Switch/Reggie Left, because a lot of my problems with modern Nintendo were still there about 10 years ago. Some have gotten slightly better, like Mario feels slightly less generic and more adventurous now, some have simultaneously gotten better AND worse, like the Virtual Console where you have to buy everything separately (potentially multiple times, if you wanna play it on another console) being replaced by a subscription service you have to pay yearly for, and some are still awful, like the sheer amount of shovelware Nintendo allows on the Switch. Being a Nintendo fan is pain, and always will be)
 
Idk if it's a weird thing to say but Nintendo games/products just haven't felt the same since Iwata passed and Reggie left. It feels like a lot of them are just being thrown out to fill space or haven't had as much love put into them other than "well the fans will buy it anyway". Part of me thought it was just me growing out of Nintendo as a company but even going back and playing games I hadn't played when I was younger they just seem far more put together from anything from gameplay to story.

Nintendo just seems so behind compared to other gaming companies now and it's kind of sad to see... AC felt half finished, Pokemon is slowly becoming more and more ass, and Splatoon 3 just seems like a rehash of 2 with different specials at this point. The console itself, whilst innovative at the time just doesn't keep up with the quality of PS and Xbox consoles imo.
 
Idk if it's a weird thing to say but Nintendo games/products just haven't felt the same since Iwata passed and Reggie left. It feels like a lot of them are just being thrown out to fill space or haven't had as much love put into them other than "well the fans will buy it anyway". Part of me thought it was just me growing out of Nintendo as a company but even going back and playing games I hadn't played when I was younger they just seem far more put together from anything from gameplay to story.

Nintendo just seems so behind compared to other gaming companies now and it's kind of sad to see... AC felt half finished, Pokemon is slowly becoming more and more ass, and Splatoon 3 just seems like a rehash of 2 with different specials at this point. The console itself, whilst innovative at the time just doesn't keep up with the quality of PS and Xbox consoles imo.
TBH, as I've said upthread, I really hate seeing this take. I don't 100% disagree with it, but I also ultimately think acting that the Iwata/Reggie years were all golden sunny skies is kind of rewriting history a bit? Case in point, the 3DS and Wii U era, which is something of a nadir for Nintendo's output imo. For every Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze or Animal Crossing: New Leaf, which are all daring and inventive new games in their respective series, there's a Mario Tennis Open, Paper Mario Sticker Star, Mario Party 10 or Wii Sports Club, which are ultimately forgettable at best, or outright going "hey, what do people like about these series? Get rid of them!" at worst. There's the New Super Mario Bros. series forgetting to be an update of the classic Super Mario games like the first one was, and instead just relying on "hey, things from older Super Mario games!", there's the utter botch job in bringing Virtual Console over from the Wii, where not only do you have to buy games again, the emulators themselves are technically inferior, and there's a weird over-reliance on "hey, nostalgia thing! Remember Nintendo games from 25-30 years ago!" rather than doing anything new or interesting, even compared to a decade beforehand, and Splatoon, the last game released while Iwata was still alive, inventing the update system as we know it today... and that's not even covering the 4 years between Iwata's death and Reggie's leaving the company, which although it includes highlights like Breath Of The Wild, Super Mario Odyssey, Super Mario Maker and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, also includes utter garbage like Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival, Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, Chibi-Robo: Zip Lash and Mario Sports Superstars.

In general, I think Nintendo themselves have improved somewhat since the dark days of the early-mid 2010s. Paper Mario and Mario Party have gone back to their roots, somewhat. They somehow made a new Mario Strikers game, something I thought was impossible. I think they've honestly got a lot to improve on still: they've got to stop over-managing the Mario brand and sanding a lot of the weirder edges of it off, they've got to try and come up with some new IPs so that every new Nintendo console isn't just a flood of sequels, and most importantly they've got to massively expand their workforce so that they can put out their prerequisite 10-12 games a year IN HD without either putting out a shockingly low amount of games per year like they did with the Wii U, or over-relying on the update system (it's usually 1 or 2 games a year, but this year, not the best vintage for Nintendo there is anyway, there's 3 of the damn things, one of which just had its first update after 3 months and it's just slight tweaks and more costumes, and the next update is another 3 months away) like they're doing with the Switch.

(this last one does seem to be happening given Nintendo's recent acquisitions of some of their sister companies and their plans for a new HQ building next to the old one, but this is a good few years away atm... but it could also be indicative of The Exact Same Idiot Decisions IN 4K!)

This is basically just my post from upthread but much longer, so I won't go on for much longer, but my point still stands: Nintendo have been in a bit of a weird state since the early 2010s (at least), it's still very much an ongoing thing but it's both improved and gotten worse at the same time, because in reality, although Nintendo seems like it's just Reggie and Iwata or Furukawa and Bowser in charge, it's ultimately a lot of people all making idiot decisions... and most of them seem to be the same people as 10 or 15 years ago, which doesn't help. Boiling it down to "these two men were charming presenters so their entire era was good" is hyperbolic, and that's a worryingly common problem in Nintendo fandom anyway.

Once again: being a Nintendo fan is pain, especially when consoles have the exact same lifespan they did when they were 10 times less powerful.
 
Splatoon 3 just seems like a rehash of 2 with different specials at this point.
Not sure about New Horizons (haven't played enough of it to make fully realized opinion on it), and I don't play Pokémon, but I think it's a bit unfair to say Splatoon 3 "seems like a rehash" of Splatoon 2. Didn't people call the second game "Splatoon 1.5" because of the lack of content and a single player mode being much of the same as the first game? With the latter, Nintendo seems to actively want to distance Splatoon 3's Hero Mode from Octo Valley and Octo Canyon, so I'm pretty excited to see what's gonna happen story-wise.

Regardless, I can see why some people feel this way about the game, because we're going to have two Splatoon games on one console as opposed to the next game being released on the next system, and Nintendo's poor marketing doesn't help.
 
TBH, as I've said upthread, I really hate seeing this take. I don't 100% disagree with it, but I also ultimately think acting that the Iwata/Reggie years were all golden sunny skies is kind of rewriting history a bit? Case in point, the 3DS and Wii U era, which is something of a nadir for Nintendo's output imo. For every Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze or Animal Crossing: New Leaf, which are all daring and inventive new games in their respective series, there's a Mario Tennis Open, Paper Mario Sticker Star, Mario Party 10 or Wii Sports Club, which are ultimately forgettable at best, or outright going "hey, what do people like about these series? Get rid of them!" at worst. There's the New Super Mario Bros. series forgetting to be an update of the classic Super Mario games like the first one was, and instead just relying on "hey, things from older Super Mario games!", there's the utter botch job in bringing Virtual Console over from the Wii, where not only do you have to buy games again, the emulators themselves are technically inferior, and there's a weird over-reliance on "hey, nostalgia thing! Remember Nintendo games from 25-30 years ago!" rather than doing anything new or interesting, even compared to a decade beforehand, and Splatoon, the last game released while Iwata was still alive, inventing the update system as we know it today... and that's not even covering the 4 years between Iwata's death and Reggie's leaving the company, which although it includes highlights like Breath Of The Wild, Super Mario Odyssey, Super Mario Maker and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, also includes utter garbage like Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival, Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, Chibi-Robo: Zip Lash and Mario Sports Superstars.

In general, I think Nintendo themselves have improved somewhat since the dark days of the early-mid 2010s. Paper Mario and Mario Party have gone back to their roots, somewhat. They somehow made a new Mario Strikers game, something I thought was impossible. I think they've honestly got a lot to improve on still: they've got to stop over-managing the Mario brand and sanding a lot of the weirder edges of it off, they've got to try and come up with some new IPs so that every new Nintendo console isn't just a flood of sequels, and most importantly they've got to massively expand their workforce so that they can put out their prerequisite 10-12 games a year IN HD without either putting out a shockingly low amount of games per year like they did with the Wii U, or over-relying on the update system (it's usually 1 or 2 games a year, but this year, not the best vintage for Nintendo there is anyway, there's 3 of the damn things, one of which just had its first update after 3 months and it's just slight tweaks and more costumes, and the next update is another 3 months away) like they're doing with the Switch.

(this last one does seem to be happening given Nintendo's recent acquisitions of some of their sister companies and their plans for a new HQ building next to the old one, but this is a good few years away atm... but it could also be indicative of The Exact Same Idiot Decisions IN 4K!)

This is basically just my post from upthread but much longer, so I won't go on for much longer, but my point still stands: Nintendo have been in a bit of a weird state since the early 2010s (at least), it's still very much an ongoing thing but it's both improved and gotten worse at the same time, because in reality, although Nintendo seems like it's just Reggie and Iwata or Furukawa and Bowser in charge, it's ultimately a lot of people all making idiot decisions... and most of them seem to be the same people as 10 or 15 years ago, which doesn't help. Boiling it down to "these two men were charming presenters so their entire era was good" is hyperbolic, and that's a worryingly common problem in Nintendo fandom anyway.

Once again: being a Nintendo fan is pain, especially when consoles have the exact same lifespan they did when they were 10 times less powerful.
I didn’t really mean it in the way that Iwata and Reggie so much had a giant role into why it’s gone downhill. More so that I didn’t know the years and around that time is when Nintendo stopped being as enticing to me anymore I guess. Or AS enticing
 
I also must comment on how even Nintendo's exclusives aren't really doing it for me anymore. … The Steam Summer Sale has really opened my eyes as a cheap gaming option.
Yo welcome to the club. I woke up to this with PS4 and XOne first. I got a gaming PC back in 2013 (which is going to need replacing if I want to keep up with new games lol) and I felt this way about those consoles back then. I still loved the 3DS and Wii U, but I hated seeing how the other consoles were going. Way way more forced installs and updates- not actually convenient compared to using PC anymore… and not much cheaper.

Yippee!! Down here some PS5 games are $120. Not for a deluxe edition or anything. In Australia. Some of them are just arbitrarily marked that high. Can you IMAGINE?! But yeah that’s real down here. Rift Apart was also that price when it came out.

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ftr Switch games are $70-80. EB Games prices. They’re basically our GameStop. So they have bad prices but everywhere else is only like $10 cheaper anyway. We have practically no mom n pop stores for older games, they gotta exist but I’ve never seen or heard of one near me. Gametraders sold retro games and they don’t even have a store in the entire state of Vic anymore, only a few stores in the entire country. Now stores like Target and K-Mart (which is still pretty alive here) were stripping down or entirely removing their electronics sections over the last few years which also means downsizing the game selection they keep in stock.
The options/alternative market are gone down here. If you want anything older than the PS4 you’re forced online which is awful because of shipping costs (and a lot of old games are expensive anyway). If you want to trade in a game for a fair price you just need to put it online or know someone who wants and would buy it. I absolutely hate console gaming right now. Switch is the last bearable one.

Even then with the Switch- been very disappointed in some choices from Nintendo. I won’t go on about my problems with the console and many games on it. However, I’m not shelving it, because I still play CTR and NH regularly, I’m playing Xenoblade 3 (maybe I’ll get Definitive Edition if I can actually find it, because I liked the first game too and you can guess how I feel about 2), and I’m waiting for Bayonetta 3 and Metroid Prime 4. My partner will also trade Metroid Dread and SMTV over to me because I never got to buying them. I still have Luigi’s Mansion 3 in my backlog, I actually do have that one. This console had enough worth buying it for but bad practices have been creeping in and idk if I want to buy the next Nintendo console. I don’t really want to see how bad things get with consoles next gen. I’m saying that but they’ll probably have some exclusive or one game that doesn’t come to PC and it’ll make me bite.

On the other hand I did get a PS4 handed to me and having played it enough and thinking of what I would want on it- I have no regrets having skipped that. Having one less console is honestly a relief and I have such a backlog. I’d rather just get out of buying new games. I’d miss playing with friends more than anything, hopefully I’d meet more people to play and chat with on PC if I really put the effort in. But you can’t just replace friends you already have. Oof oof oof.

PC isn’t perfect, but it’s definitely better for me. Oh my god this post is so negative. Uh. I’m happy I have a Switch in the end, but at this rate it might be the last console I ever buy.
 
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