LGBTQA - Discussion and support.

[Tinkalila]

I don't like all the labels because I'm afraid(and pretty sure) that people will label themselves because of a certain feeling/attraction they have (or had) and eventually doing that will MAKE them convinced that they ARE that label. Doing this will, I believe remove the idea being who you are is (for a big part)a choice.
It's a bit the same with personalities tests. You get a result and your "personality" is displayed. But this personality doesn't define who you are always going to be. It is generated out of the choices you have made in the test. Of course we definitely do have a personality, but we need to be careful because if we have a bad personality this is not something we can't change, it's a choice and we with our choices greatly affect our personality and can change. That's the danger with these labels. You start to think you ARE the label and there's nothing you can do about it.
Of course outside influences out of your power(such as education, etc.) do have an impact on how easy or difficult a choice is. But just because you are easier tempted to do something shouldn't control who you are, or who you shouldn't be. Don't forget that we're all "born" with a bad nature in some way, and thats why children NEED to be educated. But no education is flawless(and some are just plain bad), and so there'll always be things we'll have to work out ourselves. We must be careful to then not define our flaws as normal and avoid changing.

And if you would like to change, I know sometimes things seems so hard it's as if it were impossible. But I being a Christian know that with God all things are possible. And I know that out of personal experience as well. God bless you all and thanks for reading.

labels are important. having a label helps me identify myself. i don't like loose terms, i like my labels.

can they be banned for being bigoted and homophobic now.

 

[oath2order]

labels are important. having a label helps me identify myself. i don't like loose terms, i like my labels.

can they be banned for being bigoted and homophobic now.

What they said was good for debate, I don't think there's a problem with it.

 

[Netphlix]

I'm gay I think. I mean I have dated girls, been sexually attracted to girls. I like femboys that cross dress, I like to cross dress (for da bedroom reasons, eyyy). I like everything. Hi. I think sexuality and gender is something that can change at any moment in a persons life.

 

[Goth]

waiting for plantlet to post

 

[Lady Timpani]

Please don't start a ****storm in this thread. I know that I (and most likely others here) don't wait to see drama when we come here.

 

[unintentional]

As much as I love and support myself (being demisexual.) I can't find strength to come out to my family. More so, my grandpa (who I call my dad, as my dad is never around.) He says he supports homosexuality and those who "have it." (he says it like it's something you can catch.) my uncle who has been in a relationship with his boyfriend for the past 5 years and the state they live in just recently said Gay Marriage is legal (yay ;u; ) My dad said he wouldn't attend his marriage, as it's against God. I keep bringing up how the bible says to love thy neighbor (and to support them) and how being gay is something they can't choose, but he won't hear of it. He (grandpa/dad) keeps asking when I'm going to date a boy and I want so badly to say I'm dating a transboy, but I'm scared that at my age, he'll try to tell me I'm lying or something ;n;

EDIT; Also, in legal terms, there's two boys at my school who got ISS for hugging each other before going to class. Now PDA isn't allowed, but all the straight couples hug, kiss, etc, before coming to class (there's even one couple who grabs eachother's butts and makes out.) Is there any legal actions that can be taken?

 

[lazuli]

idk what i am so i just say agender/genderless plus he/his pronouns and as for sexuality, i decided asexual/aromantic
i dont mind being alone haha

 

[BlooBelle]

IDK if I'm just asexual or extremely demisexual. -.-
It's not that I don't want to date anyone, I really do, but I've never been attracted to any one person in particular.

 

[EmmaFrost]

I don't like all the labels because I'm afraid(and pretty sure) that people will label themselves because of a certain feeling/attraction they have (or had) and eventually doing that will MAKE them convinced that they ARE that label. Doing this will, I believe remove the idea being who you are is (for a big part)a choice.
It's a bit the same with personalities tests. You get a result and your "personality" is displayed. But this personality doesn't define who you are always going to be. It is generated out of the choices you have made in the test. Of course we definitely do have a personality, but we need to be careful because if we have a bad personality this is not something we can't change, it's a choice and we with our choices greatly affect our personality and can change. That's the danger with these labels. You start to think you ARE the label and there's nothing you can do about it.
Of course outside influences out of your power(such as education, etc.) do have an impact on how easy or difficult a choice is. But just because you are easier tempted to do something shouldn't control who you are, or who you shouldn't be. Don't forget that we're all "born" with a bad nature in some way, and thats why children NEED to be educated. But no education is flawless(and some are just plain bad), and so there'll always be things we'll have to work out ourselves. We must be careful to then not define our flaws as normal and avoid changing.

And if you would like to change, I know sometimes things seems so hard it's as if it were impossible. But I being a Christian know that with God all things are possible. And I know that out of personal experience as well. God bless you all and thanks for reading.

You sound incredibly ignorant and homophobic.

 

[Punchy-kun]

As much as I love and support myself (being demisexual.) I can't find strength to come out to my family. More so, my grandpa (who I call my dad, as my dad is never around.) He says he supports homosexuality and those who "have it." (he says it like it's something you can catch.) my uncle who has been in a relationship with his boyfriend for the past 5 years and the state they live in just recently said Gay Marriage is legal (yay ;u; ) My dad said he wouldn't attend his marriage, as it's against God. I keep bringing up how the bible says to love thy neighbor (and to support them) and how being gay is something they can't choose, but he won't hear of it. He (grandpa/dad) keeps asking when I'm going to date a boy and I want so badly to say I'm dating a transboy, but I'm scared that at my age, he'll try to tell me I'm lying or something ;n;

EDIT; Also, in legal terms, there's two boys at my school who got ISS for hugging each other before going to class. Now PDA isn't allowed, but all the straight couples hug, kiss, etc, before coming to class (there's even one couple who grabs eachother's butts and makes out.) Is there any legal actions that can be taken?

Just because you have to love your neighbor doesn't imply you have to agree or approve of what they do. Loving your neighbor means telling them when they're wrong too you know. The Bible definitely doesn't say you have to support a person who sins. It says the opposite. It also says that a father who does not chastise his son hates his son. Why? Because loving someone doesn't mean approval, it means a lot of disapproval to the bad things they do, and teaching them to turn from it.

Being gay not being a choice? Well it really depends on how you look at it. If you mean that you are sexually attracted to the same gender, I guess that happens. But deciding to act upon those feelings is a choice.
If a person has, and a lot of people have, random thoughts that make them want to swear, knock someone or even kill someone(it happens), it doesn't mean they should act upon these feelings. Temptation isn't a choice, but acting upon it is. Deciding to live a gay lifestyle because you are attracted to gays is a choice. And so what your father says is correct, since it is a sin to act upon those impulses. What then must these people do, who want to follow the Bible and be saved(I mention these people, because if you don't want to belong to that group it's your choice and then you don't have to care about what I'm saying). These people can pray about these things so those feelings go away(And yes, there are countless testimonies of people online that prove this), and NOT act upon them. Hard? Possibly so, but everyone has a temptation they must(or at least should) abstain from. But this is how God can see who really loves Him and who doesn't and really only cares about their own pleasure.

If homophobic just means not approving of gays(because I definitely don't hate them), then I don't mind being called one. If I'm called homophobic because people think I'm "afraid of the unknown", ignorant or hateful then I do mind, because that's not at all the case. But I think I'm called a homophobe just because I disagree, with the intention however to classify me to the same group who do hate, who are ignorant, etc just for the sole purpose of giving me a bad name because they can't stand that people disagree.
If you can't stand people who disagree, how much better are you yourself? For I obviously can stand people who disagree.

 

[KarlaKGB]

ur called a homophobe because ppl like to think in black and white

 

[Justin]

This is not a debate thread, don't turn it into one. It is a support thread as clearly stated in the title, and it's rude to come in with the purpose of attacking or starting a debate. Thank you.

 

[Colour Bandit]

I'm feeling really comfortable at work now, I found out a few days ago that my supervisor is gay and everyone is really supportive of him so I felt safe enough to come out as bi/demisexual and everyone is really supportive of me too! I did get a few questions about being demisexual but I don't think they were trying to be rude or anything and they weren't as intrusive as questions I have had from people online But yeah, I'm loving my job even more now, it really helps to have got it off my chest.

 

[radical6]

while I'm usually open to people exploring gender and sexuality, making a sexuality that means you're attracted to yourself does not mean you're oppressed for wanting to **** yourself. I cry at some of the genders and sexualities being made on the MOGAI blog. I don't care for most of them because they're harmless, but some of them like I'm just ??? Like there was one where "wanting to form a plantonic relationship" I'm like that's called friendship?? you are not oppressed for wanting to make friends. like idc make a gender or sexuality of anything u want but please think first. the sexuality ones anyway are worse, I don't really care what you make your gender though.

 

[unintentional]

Just because you have to love your neighbor doesn't imply you have to agree or approve of what they do. Loving your neighbor means telling them when they're wrong too you know. The Bible definitely doesn't say you have to support a person who sins. It says the opposite. It also says that a father who does not chastise his son hates his son. Why? Because loving someone doesn't mean approval, it means a lot of disapproval to the bad things they do, and teaching them to turn from it.

Being gay not being a choice? Well it really depends on how you look at it. If you mean that you are sexually attracted to the same gender, I guess that happens. But deciding to act upon those feelings is a choice.
If a person has, and a lot of people have, random thoughts that make them want to swear, knock someone or even kill someone(it happens), it doesn't mean they should act upon these feelings. Temptation isn't a choice, but acting upon it is. Deciding to live a gay lifestyle because you are attracted to gays is a choice. And so what your father says is correct, since it is a sin to act upon those impulses. What then must these people do, who want to follow the Bible and be saved(I mention these people, because if you don't want to belong to that group it's your choice and then you don't have to care about what I'm saying). These people can pray about these things so those feelings go away(And yes, there are countless testimonies of people online that prove this), and NOT act upon them. Hard? Possibly so, but everyone has a temptation they must(or at least should) abstain from. But this is how God can see who really loves Him and who doesn't and really only cares about their own pleasure.

If homophobic just means not approving of gays(because I definitely don't hate them), then I don't mind being called one. If I'm called homophobic because people think I'm "afraid of the unknown", ignorant or hateful then I do mind, because that's not at all the case. But I think I'm called a homophobe just because I disagree, with the intention however to classify me to the same group who do hate, who are ignorant, etc just for the sole purpose of giving me a bad name because they can't stand that people disagree.
If you can't stand people who disagree, how much better are you yourself? For I obviously can stand people who disagree.

So let's just all do what we have to, even if we don't like it yay

Do you know how seriously ignorant you sound?

 

[Brackets]

If a person has, and a lot of people have, random thoughts that make them want to swear, knock someone or even kill someone(it happens), it doesn't mean they should act upon these feelings.

But being gay doesn't hurt anyone, whereas punching or killing someone obviously does. Why do you expect them to withhold their desires if it doesn't have any bad consequences?
Honestly this thread doesn't want you here, stop bible thumping.

 

[Bowie]

Just because you have to love your neighbor doesn't imply you have to agree or approve of what they do. Loving your neighbor means telling them when they're wrong too you know. The Bible definitely doesn't say you have to support a person who sins. It says the opposite. It also says that a father who does not chastise his son hates his son. Why? Because loving someone doesn't mean approval, it means a lot of disapproval to the bad things they do, and teaching them to turn from it.

Being gay not being a choice? Well it really depends on how you look at it. If you mean that you are sexually attracted to the same gender, I guess that happens. But deciding to act upon those feelings is a choice.
If a person has, and a lot of people have, random thoughts that make them want to swear, knock someone or even kill someone(it happens), it doesn't mean they should act upon these feelings. Temptation isn't a choice, but acting upon it is. Deciding to live a gay lifestyle because you are attracted to gays is a choice. And so what your father says is correct, since it is a sin to act upon those impulses. What then must these people do, who want to follow the Bible and be saved(I mention these people, because if you don't want to belong to that group it's your choice and then you don't have to care about what I'm saying). These people can pray about these things so those feelings go away(And yes, there are countless testimonies of people online that prove this), and NOT act upon them. Hard? Possibly so, but everyone has a temptation they must(or at least should) abstain from. But this is how God can see who really loves Him and who doesn't and really only cares about their own pleasure.

If homophobic just means not approving of gays(because I definitely don't hate them), then I don't mind being called one. If I'm called homophobic because people think I'm "afraid of the unknown", ignorant or hateful then I do mind, because that's not at all the case. But I think I'm called a homophobe just because I disagree, with the intention however to classify me to the same group who do hate, who are ignorant, etc just for the sole purpose of giving me a bad name because they can't stand that people disagree.
If you can't stand people who disagree, how much better are you yourself? For I obviously can stand people who disagree.

Hey, I like men's crotches. What can I say? If I want to go for men's crotches I'm gonna go for them. I'm not gonna be ashamed of myself and hide away how I feel. I'm not hurting anybody. I like men's crotches. Sue me.

 

[Rasha]

well, this will be the first time I say this so here goes: I'm gay, or lesbian since I'm a girl?? I'm also a furry...
I have a boyfriend but I'm into girls too, I just never met a girl who'd be interested in me so I try stay straight I guess...

anyway, nice to meet you guys

 

[unintentional]

But being gay doesn't hurt anyone, whereas punching or killing someone obviously does. Why do you expect them to withhold their desires if it doesn't have any bad consequences?
Honestly this thread doesn't want you here, stop bible thumping.

THIS <33333

As I said in the religion thread, I'm fine with everything as long as it's not hurting you or someone else (and I obviously support any rights for people) There's a time and a place for sharing your thoughts, but when the thoughts are comparing killing someone and homosexuality (in a thread with SUPPORT in the title), well, you need to stop.

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well, this will be the first time I say this so here goes: I'm gay, or lesbian since I'm a girl?? I'm also a furry...
I have a boyfriend but I'm into girls too, I just never met a girl who'd be interested in me so I try stay straight I guess...

anyway, nice to meet you guys

It's okay to feel the way you do <3 Just because you havent met a girl who likes you (in that way) yet, doesn't mean you won't.

 

[BlooBelle]

THIS <33333

As I said in the religion thread, I'm fine with everything as long as it's not hurting you or someone else (and I obviously support any rights for people) There's a time and a place for sharing your thoughts, but when the thoughts are comparing killing someone and homosexuality (in a thread with SUPPORT in the title), well, you need to stop.

I pretty much agree with this.
There are some things I don't like about religion, but I generally don't mind religious people if they're tolerant. if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all, especially if the things you're saying sound like you're trying to convert us. -.-
TBH I see a lot of people like this in threads like this (on different forums ofc), but almost every christian I know in real life is very sweet. I guess people just take to the internet to bash people without consequence.