LGBTQA - Discussion and support.

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new subject! do you guys have support systems at home, in school, or in your community? my school has a gsa sponsored by my art teacher. each year i give a presentation on trans people and how to support/treat/view/include us. it's received very well and on each slide i put a picture of beyonce for no particular reason, i just really love beyonce. but next year i think it would be more appropriate to put a picture of laverne cox on each slide since it would be relevant and laverne cox is pretty much wonder woman.
 
The people who criticise me for not being into people of a certain race treat it as if it's an unacceptable mental disorder that can be corrected. Sound familiar?

Still nobody has responded to this point. What difference is there between that, and saying a gay person is mentally ill and can be cured?
 
hair color isn't something you can control. Sure you can dye it but it goes back to the previous color eventually.

You're a hypocrite. I thought you were open minded to other sexualities. Turns out, guess not.

im open to all sexualites except this one. theyre not attracted to a gender. we're not all one gender. just what about being trans is attractive? like..this is different than a lesbian being attracted to women. that lesbian likes women. but this skoliosexual likes trans people. but trans people arent one gender?? pansexual, bisexual, lesbian etc are all attracted to genders. skoliosexual isnt.

Ok let me put it another way. I have been attracted to very very few asian girls in my life. I don't consciously go 'oh they're asian, NOPE', but empirically, over a significant sample size throughout my life, I can quite safely say that I am not attracted to asian girls. It's just the way I am. Everyone has their preferences. You have no control over it. Ask a gay man why he likes ****. Beyond any superficial answers, deep down, they don't know. Same for me, I can't give any specific reason for why I prefer the things I do.

ok thats fine you havent met many asians girls you've been attracted to??? i havent met very many white people im attracted to but im not going to say that ill never date a white person? because i dont know what all of them look like. what if i come across a white person that i might find attractive? its fine that you dont think every asian girl you come across is attractive but saying that you'll never date one because of a few is bad?? idk if you really want to continue this argument we can do it in pm
 
I'm closing this thread for a moment as I've been informed there was a huge argument. It will be reopened after things have been dealt with, until then please be patient.

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So I’ve just gotten done reading up on what happened here. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for acting like this. What is this thread about? Understanding, support, and above all equality despite what you perceive about difference. Do you know what you all have in common? You’re people. Human. Beings. What does that mean? If you’re Cis, Trans, whatever you want to label yourself, you’re still a HUMAN BEING and need to ACT like one with some shred of decency.

You’re here to get support for who you are, not what you are. So if you’re going to keep adding labels and claiming others as racists then you need to get your facts straight. What you have in your pants and what you like sexually is NOT a race. It’s a preference or a biological difference to your SEX. NOT your RACE.

Genderism isn’t tolerated in this thread. If you don’t know what that is you need to do some research. You’re in the wrong thread to begin with. Non-binary discrimination isn’t tolerated here either. NO SEXISM IS TOLERATED.

Agender, Bigen, Cis, Pan, Trans, Tri, whatever. You’re people. You’re supposed to be using this thread to have similar interests. Not to blow up at each other. If I catch it again, this thread will be closed for good. Everyone involved will be suspended. No, that is not a “ZRism.” That is a UNANIMOUS decision. Don’t. Just Don’t.

You’re all walking on thin ice. This thread was kept open because we’re tolerant of your beliefs and want you to feel comfortable. So of course, it’s only fair that if you muck that up, the thread’s gone plain and simple. It’s an ANIMAL CROSSING FORUM.

That’s all.

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Below is required as some homework for the following people: KarlaKGB, Trundle, Gizmodo, ghostbab, mccorgi, Marii. This is to be done before posting in this thread again. I require long, well thought out answers. I will give you the say-so to go ahead and post here. Have an apology ready for the entire thread. I don't want you to post your answers in the thread, but pm them to me personally. Well, thought out responses to the below questions:

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Genderism
Sexism
Non-Binary Discrimination
Attraction
Opinion


Long Response:

Do you consider it discrimination if you identify with a certain set, and someone does not feel the same way? If so why? If so why not?
 
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So... Uh... Yeeeeeaaaahhhh... Let's discuss something safe, like what we do in our communities to help the LGBTQA+ community, yeah? For example, funding a support group at your school, or making announcements about it? I think that's a safe topic to start fresh with, right Zr?
Anyway. Let's start with that. I myself have made a petition to make a support group for my next year of highschool.
 
There is an awesome support group at my school called SAGA (straight and gay alliance) and they do some really awesome fundraising like selling T-Shirts where they say: I am Straight. I am Gay I am Bisexual I am Human. And it pretty much looks exactly like that with the strikethroughs and all and it's all around amazing :)
 
So... Uh... Yeeeeeaaaahhhh... Let's discuss something safe, like what we do in our communities to help the LGBTQA+ community, yeah? For example, funding a support group at your school, or making announcements about it? I think that's a safe topic to start fresh with, right Zr?
Anyway. Let's start with that. I myself have made a petition to make a support group for my next year of highschool.
was thinking about starting a group at school but eh. not too sure about the reactions i would receive

So this is a thing now?
what are you talking about
 
So... Uh... Yeeeeeaaaahhhh... Let's discuss something safe, like what we do in our communities to help the LGBTQA+ community, yeah? For example, funding a support group at your school, or making announcements about it? I think that's a safe topic to start fresh with, right Zr?
Anyway. Let's start with that. I myself have made a petition to make a support group for my next year of highschool.
My school has technically has one run by our councilor. Its more of a group support/bullying type thing. Many in the group though have been ridiculed for their sexuality. I go with my bi friend because shes too scared of what people will think of her if she goes alone, so i want to make sure to support her so she knows i'm not going to judge her.

But the group itself is pretty fun. Its a lot like personal counseling, but everyones in a group and goes around telling their stories. The group promises not to tell anyone else about things that have been shared and not to judge each other for something that is completely natural.

However i really wish the kids in my school would be smarter and more mature about issues like these. I hate it when kids say "ohmigosh, thats so gayyyy" as if that words an 'insult'. Then several of my still in the closet friends feel even worse about themselves. I kinda wish i could do more to support my friends because i really don't want them to think that i don't understand them or I'm going to look down on them in any way.
 
ah i'd love to be in a school group like that but no schools here have clubs made by students so it's out of the question. and at my current school everyone's pretty homophobic so ?? ehh maybe it would've worked as an unofficial thing in the school i was in last year since quite a bit of the students weren't straight

as for helping, there's not a lot i can do since im closeted and live with my transphobic and homophobic mom ssssso. um, once at school we had a debate on if gay marriage should be legal or not (suprisingly the teacher wasn't homophobic. a new experience) and i kept making arguments for it, even mentioned non-straight couples with a trans person that could have kids of their own bc of that, etc but it pretty much went ignored since lots of people in the class didn't even know what being trans meant. if anything it just made everyone see me as the school/class lesbian when i'm. not even a girl but. idk, maybe someone listened so i don't mind much
 
There was non-binary discrimination going on? Some people are going to get some virtual b-slaps. :cool:
 
Don't kill me, but I hate the fact that a lot these people and athiest people simply call me homophobic and transphobic or call me out for being Christian just because I don't advocate LGBT. Why won't these people stop being so confrontal and just accept that not everyone is going to be a yay-sayer to that kind of stuff.

I have nothing against these people. If they are a dude who wants to marry or being a dude, whatever, but don't go calling my beliefs out and shouting out homophobic to me.
 
Don't kill me, but I hate the fact that a lot these people and athiest people simply call me homophobic and transphobic or call me out for being Christian just because I don't advocate LGBT. Why won't these people stop being so confrontal and just accept that not everyone is going to be a yay-sayer to that kind of stuff.

I have nothing against these people. If they are a dude who wants to marry or being a dude, whatever, but don't go calling my beliefs out and shouting out homophobic to me.

we just want to be supported and respected. if people lash out at you, please understand that they've faced a lot of discrimination and they have a difficult time trusting those that don't support and respect them.
 
I've always been accepted. By my family, and even by my friends. I've never really felt the struggle others have when it comes to this, so I don't know what I could chime in. I wish you guys the best in finding yourselves and acceptance. It's always a worthy struggle.
 
we just want to be supported and respected. if people lash out at you, please understand that they've faced a lot of discrimination and they have a difficult time trusting those that don't support and respect them.

Btw, this happened on gamefaqs
 
Btw, this happened on gamefaqs

I'm really sorry that happened D: people tend to lash out in weakness, you know? we're all just upset and tired of being treated badly, and we're accidentally being really rude and a bit hypocritical (judging people for who they are). I'm sorry, again, but please try to understand.
 
I'm really sorry that happened D: people tend to lash out in weakness, you know? we're all just upset and tired of being treated badly, and we're accidentally being really rude and a bit hypocritical (judging people for who they are). I'm sorry, again, but please try to understand.

The people weren't gay themselves, but athiest and/or advocates.
 
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