LGBTQA - Discussion and support.

[MozzarellaSticks]

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What do you guys think of this?
I get what they're saying though and I kinda agree but idk. Like homelessness doesn't really get talked about in the community. Lots of LGBTQIA teens are homeless so yeah I doubt their biggest concern is marriage. The media doesn't really focus on the homeless kids?? Whenever it comes to talking about the LGBTQIA community it's pretty much always about a same sex marriage war. I feel like the battle for same sex marriage is important too, but the homeless issue is almost never addressed.

Honestly, people seem to just ignore the homeless. I can't tell you how many times I hear things like, "They got themselves in that situation." Or, "They'll just spend the money on booze." People are sympathetic in general, but when it comes to individual cases and being face-to-face with a homeless beggar they just shut down. When it comes to the entire problem they kind of dismiss it.

When it comes to things that the LGBTQA community faces people don't focus on issues that the media doesn't. Marriage is publicized. And people seem to assume it's the major issue. They ignore the violence, homelessness, mental illness, etc. that plagues the community. It's probably stemming from people's needs to ignore such problems as a whole. They like to believe that the world is relatively equal and fair when it isn't.

 

[Jake]

Really? :/

Well I have been staying with a friend for like a week but basically yah

 

[radical6]

Homelessness doesn't get talked about at all :/

Honestly, people seem to just ignore the homeless. I can't tell you how many times I hear things like, "They got themselves in that situation." Or, "They'll just spend the money on booze." People are sympathetic in general, but when it comes to individual cases and being face-to-face with a homeless beggar they just shut down. When it comes to the entire problem they kind of dismiss it.

When it comes to things that the LGBTQA community faces people don't focus on issues that the media doesn't. Marriage is publicized. And people seem to assume it's the major issue. They ignore the violence, homelessness, mental illness, etc. that plagues the community. It's probably stemming from people's needs to ignore such problems as a whole. They like to believe that the world is relatively equal and fair when it isn't.

I agree. The same people who say "oh! I'll donate money to the poor!" but when they can actually give money to a homeless person on the street they're very hesitant to. Who cares how they got there? They're homeless and they're starving. Just spare a buck or two. I remember seeing (rich) gay men in CA shut down a shelter (or were close to i think?? They cut off funding I believe). It was a news report. There was a homeless center for LGBTQIA youth and they complained about it so much because apparently it made the city "poor looking" and attracted too many homeless kids. I was reading it and all I could think was "what the hell?" These were the same people who fought so hard for same sex marriage but they turn around and kick these kids out?? Disgusting. The story wasn't in the big media sites and was mostly on smaller news sites or LGBT centered ones. I guess these people don't really care about homeless people at all.

Yeah mental illness, racism etc is ignored in the community a lot. I saw some gay men attack autistic trans girls on purpose and laugh at them if they get angry. Like these guys kept misgendering her and she was getting so much hate so she said "die" to someone and they all got really pissed off and ganged up on her. Like she can't control that?? And saying "die" is so small compared to the abuse they put her through. There's also a lot of rampant biphobia from lesbian women who call bi women "cocksuckers/**** worshippers". (pretty sure that has racist connections for black women during the slavery era in the U.S or something idk)?? Like this is how we act? I even see LGB people say that the T and the rest of the acronym should be taken out. It's just..really sad to see. Sometimes it makes me distant from using the LGBTQIA label because of this stuff? Idk. Like I don't really wanna address myself as trans or put myself under the trans umbrella sometimes nowadays because it just feels weird.

 

[MozzarellaSticks]

I agree. The same people who say "oh! I'll donate money to the poor!" but when they can actually give money to a homeless person on the street they're very hesitant to. Who cares how they got there? They're homeless and they're starving. Just spare a buck or two. I remember seeing (rich) gay men in CA shut down a shelter (or were close to i think?? They cut off funding I believe). It was a news report. There was a homeless center for LGBTQIA youth and they complained about it so much because apparently it made the city "poor looking" and attracted too many homeless kids. I was reading it and all I could think was "what the hell?" These were the same people who fought so hard for same sex marriage but they turn around and kick these kids out?? Disgusting. The story wasn't in the big media sites and was mostly on smaller news sites or LGBT centered ones. I guess these people don't really care about homeless people at all.

Yeah mental illness, racism etc is ignored in the community a lot. I saw some gay men attack autistic trans girls on purpose and laugh at them if they get angry. Like these guys kept misgendering her and she was getting so much hate so she said "die" to someone and they all got really pissed off and ganged up on her. Like she can't control that?? And saying "die" is so small compared to the abuse they put her through. There's also a lot of rampant biphobia from lesbian women who call bi women "cocksuckers/**** worshippers". (pretty sure that has racist connections for black women during the slavery era in the U.S or something idk)?? Like this is how we act? I even see LGB people say that the T and the rest of the acronym should be taken out. It's just..really sad to see. Sometimes it makes me distant from using the LGBTQIA label because of this stuff? Idk. Like I don't really wanna address myself as trans or put myself under the trans umbrella sometimes nowadays because it just feels weird.

Sadly I have seen the community attack it's own members. I've heard from some gay people that anyone bi or pan is just confused. I don't get that at all. Doesn't it hurt when people tell you that? So how can you turn around and do that to other people? Asexual, genderfluid, and agender are so misunderstood, too. It just bothers me that the one place that should understand and accept can sometimes be just as hostile. It's really sad.

 

[radical6]

Sadly I have seen the community attack it's own members. I've heard from some gay people that anyone bi or pan is just confused. I don't get that at all. Doesn't it hurt when people tell you that? So how can you turn around and do that to other people? Asexual, genderfluid, and agender are so misunderstood, too. It just bothers me that the one place that should understand and accept can sometimes be just as hostile. It's really sad.

I don't understand the whole bi/poly/panphobia thing with the Gay and Lesbian community tbh. Is it that hard to realize that people might like more than one gender? And yeah asexual people are pretty much ignored in the community. They're not given much of an option to speak. Like people say all the time they're not oppressed. Maybe they're not getting killed everyday for being asexual, but people constantly ignore the fact that they're asexual. It's seen as weird or not normal I guess.

As someone whos Agender I sometimes get misunderstood? Like people say you can't be nonbinary if you don't have dysphoria. I consider myself to have a mild chest dysphoria sometimes?? But like who cares?? Dysphoria isn't 100% required to be trans. Trans men like to stomp on nonbinary teens because y'know it's the new "bisexual trend". Genderfluid people are mocked all the time because they're just fakers or whatever. Idk I feel like if you're not a trans guy with full body dysphoria then you're looked down as a "transtrender". I see people like this continuing to grow in numbers and tbh they're kind of scary. They give trans people grief and anxiety because it's not like they aren't already told that they're not trans IRL. I kind of just wish they would leave the community or something because they have no right to validate someone's identity.

 

[Lady Timpani]

Oh cool I was actually wondering if there was a group like this on here. uvu For the past couple years I've considered myself to be a lesbian but recently I haven't really felt any attraction towards anyone. But I think that's not exactly a sexuality thing for me and more just where I am in life

Anyway it'll be nice to talk to you guys and it's nice to meet you aha.

 

[epona]

sexually i am bisexual, as in i have had sexual relations with both boys and girls and am attracted to both but i've only ever been romantically attracted to boys
does that make me exploitative or soemthing i don't know what am i WHAT AM I

 

[Lady Timpani]

sexually i am bisexual, as in i have had sexual relations with both boys and girls and am attracted to both but i've only ever been romantically attracted to boys
does that make me exploitative or soemthing i don't know what am i WHAT AM I

I don't think you're necessarily "exploiting" anybody? I've seen a lot of people use "homoromantic bisexual" or "biromantic homosexual" or other variations so I think you would call yourself a heteroromantic bisexual? Idk I don't think you necessarily have to label yourself if you don't want to.

 

[epona]

I don't think you're necessarily "exploiting" anybody? I've seen a lot of people use "homoromantic bisexual" or "biromantic homosexual" or other variations so I think you would call yourself a heteroromantic bisexual? Idk I don't think you necessarily have to label yourself if you don't want to.

i am only part of the LGBTQA community solely as an ally, i would never label myself as LGBTQA as essentially i am straight, i just happen to have slept with girls
so it feels maybe like i am exploiting the community or trying to disregard it by even posting in this thread idk
i just call myself straight because that's what i am, my natural attraction is towards men and whenever i've been with girls it's had some kind of experimental quality to it i suppose

 

[Clara Oswald]

I think I'm ready to admit something..

 

[Lady Timpani]

i am only part of the LGBTQA community solely as an ally, i would never label myself as LGBTQA as essentially i am straight, i just happen to have slept with girls
so it feels maybe like i am exploiting the community or trying to disregard it by even posting in this thread idk
i just call myself straight because that's what i am, my natural attraction is towards men and whenever i've been with girls it's had some kind of experimental quality to it i suppose

Ah okay, I understand now. I personally don't think there's really anything wrong with experimenting, so long as both parties know it's only going to be a fling and not a relationship. I think most people would only be bothered by it if you used it as a way to get with guys, which it doesn't seem like you're doing?

 

[epona]

Ah okay, I understand now. I personally don't think there's really anything wrong with experimenting, so long as both parties know it's only going to be a fling and not a relationship. I think most people would only be bothered by it if you used it as a way to get with guys, which it doesn't seem like you're doing?

oh god definitely not haha! it's always just been a spontaneous thing i guess

 

[Clara Oswald]

Here we go..

I'm asexual and I am a finally ready to tell the world. Asexuals actually get plenty of discrimination, I'm 14 and I've already heard someone say they just need a "good raping" about me. I don't know if it was a joke but the person who said it isn't the joking sought at all. But I want to accept who I am and if people say stuff like that they can get out of my life tbh. So that's why I was kinda nervous. Sorry if it seems silly..

Do people have advice on how to handle people like that for future reference?

 

[radical6]

Here we go..

I'm asexual and I am a finally ready to tell the world. Asexuals actually get plenty of discrimination, I'm 14 and I've already heard someone say they just need a "good raping" about me. I don't know if it was a joke but the person who said it isn't the joking sought at all. But I want to accept who I am and if people say stuff like that they can get out of my life tbh. So that's why I was kinda nervous. Sorry if it seems silly..

Do people have advice on how to handle people like that for future reference?

Ok wow thats really wrong and im sorry. Honestly im not asexual or on the aromantic scale at all so i dont know what to say. But if you feel like you can say you're asexual safely, then go for it. They will probably ask questions like "what does asexual mean??" but hopefully they'll understand. Another thing to do is to tell them to knock off the rape jokes. Asexual or not, you dont ever say that

 

[Titi]

Here we go..

I'm asexual and I am a finally ready to tell the world. Asexuals actually get plenty of discrimination, I'm 14 and I've already heard someone say they just need a "good raping" about me. I don't know if it was a joke but the person who said it isn't the joking sought at all. But I want to accept who I am and if people say stuff like that they can get out of my life tbh. So that's why I was kinda nervous. Sorry if it seems silly..

Do people have advice on how to handle people like that for future reference?

I think 14's a little young to know for sure if you're asexual hun. You could just be a late bloomer, plenty of kids that age aren't interested in sex or even love sometimes. Either way people don't have the right to treat you this way. I would avoid making too much of a fuss and telling everyone around you that you believe you are asexual. Most kids your age won't understand and will be disrespectful about it and it'll only make things worse and they'll be no reasoning with them. Just brush it off for now, tell them you have better things to do. That's nothing more than my personal advice of course.

 

[Clara Oswald]

Ok wow thats really wrong and im sorry. Honestly im not asexual or on the aromantic scale at all so i dont know what to say. But if you feel like you can say you're asexual safely, then go for it. They will probably ask questions like "what does asexual mean??" but hopefully they'll understand. Another thing to do is to tell them to knock off the rape jokes. Asexual or not, you dont ever say that

Thank you for the advice

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I think 14's a little young to know for sure if you're asexual hun. You could just be a late bloomer, plenty of kids that age aren't interested in sex or even love sometimes. Either way people don't have the right to treat you this way. I would avoid making too much of a fuss and telling everyone around you that you believe you are asexual. Most kids your age won't understand and will be disrespectful about it and it'll only make things worse and they'll be no reasoning with them. Just brush it off for now, tell them you have better things to do. That's nothing more than my personal advice of course.

I've only told a few close friends at the minute but I do know I am asexual. I can't tell you why I just know that I am. Thanks for the advice. I think I will keep it with the people I've told.

 

[MozzarellaSticks]

Here we go..

I'm asexual and I am a finally ready to tell the world. Asexuals actually get plenty of discrimination, I'm 14 and I've already heard someone say they just need a "good raping" about me. I don't know if it was a joke but the person who said it isn't the joking sought at all. But I want to accept who I am and if people say stuff like that they can get out of my life tbh. So that's why I was kinda nervous. Sorry if it seems silly..

Do people have advice on how to handle people like that for future reference?

I'm sorry. People can be extremely insensitive and ignorant. Don't ignore threats, though. It's not safe. I'd say to report them, but only if you feel safe doing so.

As for your sexuality itself, it's brave of you to come out. A lot of people can't. And that's okay. There's no Obligation to. It's completely a person's business. Just keep that in mind. You don't have to let anyone know unless you want to. It's really brave of you to tell us, though.

I think 14's a little young to know for sure if you're asexual hun. You could just be a late bloomer, plenty of kids that age aren't interested in sex or even love sometimes. Either way people don't have the right to treat you this way. I would avoid making too much of a fuss and telling everyone around you that you believe you are asexual. Most kids your age won't understand and will be disrespectful about it and it'll only make things worse and they'll be no reasoning with them. Just brush it off for now, tell them you have better things to do. That's nothing more than my personal advice of course.

Honestly, I don't think anyone is too young to know their sexuality. They may not fully understand it, and that's okay. Sexuality is fluid anyway. There are people who knew their sexuality from a young age and those who discovered it later in life. Their are people who can't find theirs. None of them are wrong. But it is important to keep in mind that sexuality is fluid and not a concrete that must be labeled.

 

[Clara Oswald]

I'm sorry. People can be extremely insensitive and ignorant. Don't ignore threats, though. It's not safe. I'd say to report them, but only if you feel safe doing so.

As for your sexuality itself, it's brave of you to come out. A lot of people can't. And that's okay. There's no Obligation to. It's completely a person's business. Just keep that in mind. You don't have to let anyone know unless you want to. It's really brave of you to tell us, though.

Honestly, I don't think anyone is too young to know their sexuality. They may not fully understand it, and that's okay. Sexuality is fluid anyway. There are people who knew their sexuality from a young age and those who discovered it later in life. Their are people who can't find theirs. None of them are wrong. But it is important to keep in mind that sexuality is fluid and not a concrete that must be labeled.

Thank you! It was pretty scary, because I've received that threat. I won't report it because it's someone I should get on with for my best friends sake

 

[MozzarellaSticks]

Thank you! It was pretty scary, because I've received that threat. I won't report it because it's someone I should get on with for my best friends sake

I can't recommend that you continue associating with someone like that. It doesn't sound safe. If your best friend really is your best friend they should understand. But I'm not in your situation. I don't understand it fully. And it is your life. Make the decision you feel is in the best interest of your safety.

 

[Clara Oswald]

I can't recommend that you continue associating with someone like that. It doesn't sound safe. If your best friend really is your best friend they should understand. But I'm not in your situation. I don't understand it fully. And it is your life. Make the decision you feel is in the best interest of your safety.

I will, the person generally is all bark and no bite so I'm not too worried just a bit shocked and shaken up