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Nope, I'm staying here for college. Still going to University though.

People are a lot different in college than they are in high school. You'll find guys who are into all sorts of things, it's just about surrounding yourself with people that have similar interests to you.
 
Nope, I'm staying here for college. Still going to University though.

Do what feels right; tell them they're making you uncomfortable. There's no sense in leaving this hang in the air if it's just hurting you.

Parents will be parents, I suppose.
 
People are a lot different in college than they are in high school. You'll find guys who are into all sorts of things, it's just about surrounding yourself with people that have similar interests to you.

Having MUCH older siblings, I know they're different. It's just guys seem to be into the yoga-pants wearing girls and not... yeah...

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Do what feels right; tell them they're making you uncomfortable. There's no sense in leaving this hang in the air if it's just hurting you.

Parents will be parents, I suppose.

My parents are terrible and I just ignore them when they suggest things. I've been dragged to clothing stores with my mother earlier this year, but to no avail. I've been buying clothes with my own money.
 
Having MUCH older siblings, I know they're different. It's just guys seem to be into the yoga-pants wearing girls and not... yeah...

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My parents are terrible and I just ignore them when they suggest things. I've been dragged to clothing stores with my mother earlier this year, but to no avail. I've been buying clothes with my own money.

I kind of understand how you feel. My mom accepts my choices, but my father is still uneasy about seeing me with other women. On occasion he's introduced me to younger men that he knows through work, or the sons of friends of his. It's really concerning at times, and I've told him he's nothing helping at all. He's just stuck in his ways, and I really can't change that.
 
Having MUCH older siblings, I know they're different. It's just guys seem to be into the yoga-pants wearing girls and not... yeah...

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My parents are terrible and I just ignore them when they suggest things. I've been dragged to clothing stores with my mother earlier this year, but to no avail. I've been buying clothes with my own money.

Well, yoga pants ARE pretty comfortable haha but no I get what you mean.

It can be tough to get your parents to understand you, especially while you're living with them. I had the sort of parents that I've completely cut out of my life as an adult. There are some battles you can win, and some you can't, and some that aren't worth fighting. This in your case, is one that's not worth fighting. Keep buying your own clothes and wearing whatever you like.
 
I'm late to the pansexuality vs bisexuality argument but
Pansexuals don't hate bisexuals. I don't hate bisexuals. Bisexuality is described as being attracted to two genders. Pansexuality is being attracted to all genders. I don't mind dating a guy, a girl, or a nonbinary person. Or whatever gender. Though it's very much possible to be bisexual and only attracted to girls and nonbinary people for example. Bisexuality is not transphobic/cissexist unlessy ou make it to be. The pansexual community doesn't look down on bisexuals as transphobes. If anything, we need to stand with them y'know if they already face bi erasure from the gay and lesbian communities.
 
Having MUCH older siblings, I know they're different. It's just guys seem to be into the yoga-pants wearing girls and not... yeah....
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Lol, just kidding. I get what you mean. If it makes you feel better people get better at relationships as they age. They stop going for someone that looks good beside them and start to go for compatible, which does include looks.
 
Something that makes me really scared about coming out to my parents that I'm a boy is that I remember getting my hair cut short and my mom said "You don't want to be a boy!" when we got there.

Added, I can easily imagine my parents saying "We're you're parents we're allowed to call you our daughter." Too easily in fact, so I just keep quiet about it even though it makes me really -_________-
 
I have short hair. Actually this week or the next week I'm going to get it cut again, to just about under an inch this time.
 
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Lol, just kidding. I get what you mean. If it makes you feel better people get better at relationships as they age. They stop going for someone that looks good beside them and start to go for compatible, which does include looks.

Still, if you're boyfriend was acting like a full-grown girl, wouldn't you be a little creeped out by it?

Well, yoga pants ARE pretty comfortable haha but no I get what you mean.

It can be tough to get your parents to understand you, especially while you're living with them. I had the sort of parents that I've completely cut out of my life as an adult. There are some battles you can win, and some you can't, and some that aren't worth fighting. This in your case, is one that's not worth fighting. Keep buying your own clothes and wearing whatever you like.

I don't really have a job because my parents are paying for college (losers!). So I can only buy a few t shirts at a time. I don't get allowance anymore and I'm running on graduation money. It's not too long before it runs out.

I kind of understand how you feel. My mom accepts my choices, but my father is still uneasy about seeing me with other women. On occasion he's introduced me to younger men that he knows through work, or the sons of friends of his. It's really concerning at times, and I've told him he's nothing helping at all. He's just stuck in his ways, and I really can't change that.

That's kinda annoying. Why does he need to introduce you to strangers when you can just as easily find strangers yourself?
 
Probably because he thinks he knows what's better for me than I do. I don't blame him too much, but I still wish he'd give me air to breathe.
 
I wanted to add something to the bi/pan discussion:

If you like both men and women, how could you not like somebody who's in-between those two. And that is why I don't see a need for the label "pansexual". Most bisexuals (actually all bisexuals) I know would never say that they are exclusively attracted to men/women but to all people.

I'm not saying people can't call themselves like that, it's their own business, but in my opionion, that label is pretty much unnecessary.
 
I wanted to add something to the bi/pan discussion:

If you like both men and women, how could you not like somebody who's in-between those two. And that is why I don't see a need for the label "pansexual". Most bisexuals (actually all bisexuals) I know would never say that they are exclusively attracted to men/women but to all people.

I'm not saying people can't call themselves like that, it's their own business, but in my opionion, that label is pretty much unnecessary.

being bisexual does not only mean that you like men and women, it can be any mix of two genders across the entire non binary and binary spectrum. an example could be liking men and non binary people but not women. basically, because it is bisexual you are suggesting that you like only two genders, so no you can't like anybody in between if you are bisexual. a pansexual person likes any gender, and is not limited to just two, so it is entirely necessary.

hopefully that made sense i'm awful at explaining things especially when i'm this tired
 
I wanted to add something to the bi/pan discussion:

If you like both men and women, how could you not like somebody who's in-between those two. And that is why I don't see a need for the label "pansexual". Most bisexuals (actually all bisexuals) I know would never say that they are exclusively attracted to men/women but to all people.

I'm not saying people can't call themselves like that, it's their own business, but in my opionion, that label is pretty much unnecessary.

wao.

As a person who considers themselves "bisexual", that's just weird that anyone would be like- "well, why don't you just like EVERYONE, then?"

because the truth is, I don't. I like women. I like men. The in-between is just not of interest to me, and I'm sorry if that insults anyone somehow, but I'm not really required to just like anyone that has masculine or feminine traits. You really can't dictate what someone can and can't like based on their particular label. Saying "well just be pansexual" is kinda- idk. Assuming things.

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being bisexual does not only mean that you like men and women, it can be any mix of two genders across the entire non binary and binary spectrum.

this, too. c:
 
Since we're discussing the definitions of labels, a question:

Although I ID as a lesbian, I think I would be open to dating a non-binary person, should I develop feelings for a person that identifies as non-binary. I know there are nb people out there who label themselves as lesbians. Basically my question is, is it okay to still refer to myself as a lesbian since I'm not... actively seeking out an nb person? Especially since some of the faab people who are attracted to only women stick with the term lesbian, or is this just a big no-no? (I think this made more sense in my head lol)
 
Since we're discussing the definitions of labels, a question:

Although I ID as a lesbian, I think I would be open to dating a non-binary person, should I develop feelings for a person that identifies as non-binary. I know there are nb people out there who label themselves as lesbians. Basically my question is, is it okay to still refer to myself as a lesbian since I'm not... actively seeking out an nb person? Especially since some of the faab people who are attracted to only women stick with the term lesbian, or is this just a big no-no? (I think this made more sense in my head lol)

if you're attracted to i suppose, femme or dfab nb people, then using the term lesbian for yourself is probably fine. as a nb dfab i identify as panromantic lesbian because sexually i am solely attracted to girls or femme people. as long as you are careful to only refer to yourself as lesbian in your position and not assume the same for others than i'm sure it'a fine! :)
 
Since we're discussing the definitions of labels, a question:

Although I ID as a lesbian, I think I would be open to dating a non-binary person, should I develop feelings for a person that identifies as non-binary. I know there are nb people out there who label themselves as lesbians. Basically my question is, is it okay to still refer to myself as a lesbian since I'm not... actively seeking out an nb person? Especially since some of the faab people who are attracted to only women stick with the term lesbian, or is this just a big no-no? (I think this made more sense in my head lol)

I don't see the problem with identifying PRIMARILY as a lesbian. But I mean, you can say you're flexible, too.
 
if you're attracted to i suppose, femme or dfab nb people, then using the term lesbian for yourself is probably fine. as a nb dfab i identify as panromantic lesbian because sexually i am solely attracted to girls or femme people. as long as you are careful to only refer to yourself as lesbian in your position and not assume the same for others than i'm sure it'a fine! :)

Yeah, I understand that there are bisexual identified people who like women and nb people. I think my problem is that I'm not particularly comfortable with calling myself bi (this isn't an insult to bi people, I just feel that the label doesn't fit me personally) and that, like I said, I don't exactly seek out non-binary people the way I do with women, if that makes any sense. I guess it'd be better to say that I am open to but not looking for a relationship with an nb person, should I ever develop feelings for them.

But thanks! It's more helpful to discuss things like this with others, haha.

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I don't see the problem with identifying PRIMARILY as a lesbian. But I mean, you can say you're flexible, too.

I think this is what I was aiming to say, yes.
 
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