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Mafia PunchyDaHufflepuff Mafia 3: Return of the Punch - Dethy

i forgot this existed (again) an everythings probs going to happen when im asleep (again) so ##VOTE: No lynch

im sry oof
 
Vanessa can you describe what your opinion of each player was on N1?

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Ok, Dad was more than likely right that saying that looking at Vanessa could be revealing. Currently deciding on the best course of action here
 
I thought you were town Dolby because of the detailed action plans and PoE things you were doing, and because of that I trusted you on Dedenne being clear even tho I didn't fully understand why. By that logic I thought scum was Phil or Dad
 
I thought you were town Dolby because of the detailed action plans and PoE things you were doing, and because of that I trusted you on Dedenne being clear even tho I didn't fully understand why. By that logic I thought scum was Phil or Dad

And why didn’t you say anything about your opinions?
 
Yeah, she underplayed things here but the arbitrary reason to inspect Phil and the fact that she is basically my CC where Dolby and Dedenne are unccd makes me want to vote her because I don't see the point in the no lynch now. Busy at work on but that is my thought basically.
 
Yeah, there’s no reason to prolong this really. I’m dead tonight probably, which makes Dedenne the swing vote, but insane is CCed by scum and Sane is dead so we have no info to gain

Dad, did you see Dedenne’s inspect before posting yours on D1?
 
I'll have to look back at who posted theirs before mine. If she did before I did then probably.

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Looks like she posted two minutes before I did so I am going to assume I didn't and it was a ninja.

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In case plurality matters:

#VOTE: Vanessa
 
So a rundown for the options of scum Dad and scum Vanessa

We know this to be the rolelist now

Dedenne: Paranoid
Dolby: Naive
Dad or Vanessa: Insane
Philemon: Sane

Vanessa knew this to be the rolelist if she is scum

Dedenne: Paranoid
Dolby: Sane or Naive
Philemon: Sane or Naive
Dad: Insane

And is forced to kill Philemon and frame Dad as her only option for survival, with a 50% chance of me confirming her as scum

Scum Dad knew this to be the role list

Dedenne: Insane or Paranoid
Dolby: Naive
Vanessa: Insane or Paranoid
Philemon: Sane

His best route was to frame Vanessa, because no way in hell he kills her and he knows that there's a 50% chance that Vanessa is insane and will get green on him. He does have other routes, but they're just plain worse. The only way to do this is to kill Philemon

But at the end of the day Vanessa just looks worse to me. Dad could quite easily be fooling me, but even in comparison to last game she's playing substandard. The inspect on Phil somehow ran against BOTH of my preconditions towards clearing a town. In the other game she at least made AN ATTEMPT to narrow it down. I'm going to be looking into things more, but I do have one piece of evidence that I do think tends slightly towards scum Dad, and that's that Vanessa claimed into the same immune slot. Maybe this is just an emotional reaction of being ok losing to Dad playing like this and not to Vanessa, but she's made NO attempts to scumhunt, didn't even comment on her opinions until later when Dad either inspected her or fabricated against her, and has only made one post that was not directly called for

And again, looking into Vanessa's filter extensively. There ain't a lot

Also, if Dedenne is Paranoid and Vanessa gets a town result that means that Insane inspected scum, which could clear another person who was not inspected (I think only Phil fits the criteria for that rn)

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I also feel that Philemon would prefer Dedenne to not be clear over towncred so I?m townleaning him for getting a town result(as scum he could sink Dedenne potentially being cleared)
I got mafia on Phil so I'm not naive

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Dedenne Sane Insane Paranoid Naive Mafia
Dolby Sane Insane Paranoid Naive Mafia
Vanessa Sane Insane Paranoid Naive Mafia
Philemon Sane Insane Paranoid Naive Mafia
Dad Sane Insane Paranoid Naive Mafia

#what a coincidence

Are you insinuating that going against both those conditions makes me suspicious? It's not like I could've known who would be inspected ahead of time
Kinda less aggro on me and more passive. Trying to deflect off, but frankly, I could see this from town her after last game

Oops I forgot Day is only 12 hours. I would've voted no lynch anyways because irs not worth the risk that we're wrong when we could get much more clarity tonight. I will send in an investigation for Dad

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This is definetely one of the things that sets me off on her. She does not say anything about any reads. She at least made an attempt last game, and there's plenty here to implicate Dad here from your PoV because 1. I'm really so ****ing town 2. Philemon is could have sunk Dedenne's confirmation

Dad came back as town I am not paranoid

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I must be insane? Which means Dad is actually scum
Scum Phil = town
Town Dad = scum

I feel like this is acting clueless honestly. Yes, saying your results is important, but I don't like that you straight up ignored the accusation from Dad in this and just kinda sat yourself back rather than defend yourself or comment on his own insane claim

I thought you were town Dolby because of the detailed action plans and PoE things you were doing, and because of that I trusted you on Dedenne being clear even tho I didn't fully understand why. By that logic I thought scum was Phil or Dad
THEN WHY DIDN'T YoU SAY ANYTHING

Will look into Dad
 
If Dolby or Dedenne wants a no to feel sure then fine, but I guarantee the cc will repeat.
 
Also, I'd rather end it today with my vote, even if it's wrong, then risking Dedenne forget to send hers in lol
 
If Dolby or Dedenne wants a no to feel sure then fine, but I guarantee the cc will repeat.

Yeah, I understand that fully and that hammer will end up passing to Dedenne since she's Para rather than insane

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##Vote: Vanessa. Could change pending look into Dad.

At least Vanessa made comments on the points last game. Apparently this game she's been keeping silent from what she's said
 
Why does this phone hate me.

nl*

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And no Dolby hammer would pass to Dedenne because you are solving more extensively. I have thought a lot about how she played as town when I helped mislynch her and her play is kinda similar here but the lack of uncertainty she's been displaying in this game has spoken volumes to me since day 1, especially with only a townread on her. I'm assuming she is banking on the kill saying more about me than her.
 
Why does this phone hate me.

nl*

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And no Dolby hammer would pass to Dedenne because you are solving more extensively. I have thought a lot about how she played as town when I helped mislynch her and her play is kinda similar here but the lack of uncertainty she's been displaying in this game has spoken volumes to me since day 1, especially with only a townread on her. I'm assuming she is banking on the kill saying more about me than her.

No, I was saying that if Dedenne was insane they'd kill her off rather than me since she could have been able to confirm one of you as scum, or lying about being insane. I have def been putting in more of a contribution. More of a point of order if anything

Dad, what was the last game that you were scum in (besides love letter)

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But the more that I look at it, either way the only viable options for either of you is whats happening now (unless you wanted to go on the ballsy frame me path) to address your main point

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nvm found that game

Yeah, I'm a bit more confident in being right now
 
Yeah you hosted the second to last game I was scum in. Being 3p in the MU anniversary game I guess but I was confused and thought I was vanillized bc of host. I wouldn't waste your time reading a 50,000 post game.
 
I wasn't online (I basically just posted by investigation results D1 if you look back, I forgot day was only 12 hours and didn't check in later in the day)

I meant at the time of N1 when you said that you'd invest Dad. I feel like not giving opinions during day was perfectly reasonable. Because you could have at least given a PoE of your suspects then, and you did answer his question
 
Dolby said:
I feel like this is acting clueless honestly. Yes, saying your results is important, but I don't like that you straight up ignored the accusation from Dad in this and just kinda sat yourself back rather than defend yourself or comment on his own insane claim
Before I posted that, all I had read was the post that said Phil died and my investigation result from Ness. I was on the bus to go somewhere and just wanted to get my result out. Then I saw that Dad had also claimed insane and was like great just my luck it's Dad v Vanessa part 2 and once again he's the scum

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I meant at the time of N1 when you said that you'd invest Dad. I feel like not giving opinions during day was perfectly reasonable. Because you could have at least given a PoE of your suspects then, and you did answer his question

Meh true my only answer is that I was busy which is a lame defense
 
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