Mafia Redd's Revenge - Game Thread [GAME OVER]

[BetsySundrop]

Ok more stuff. Its a wall, so I'm putting in spoiler to save thread space.

Spoiler: Stuff

Gonna catch up in a second but I can’t believe Ribbit was taken, I thought we suspected them

I thought this was good logic. Then there was ness/doo on why ribbit?

Who’s Ted?

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I’m so confused why ribbit was kidnapped and not someone obviously town, like Lily/frosty maybe

Imo, doo was thinking why would a strong tr be alive, and a person who was sussed and almost kicked off nk.

You think Lily dies, but not Betsy?

Yeah. Because if you leave people who are being pushed as suss alive, it makes pushing miselims easier for maf.

But lily is objectively a bad kill. She provided very little in terms of information or contributions to the thread. Assuming you think Betsy is town, I would think that she would have made more sense in this reality you’re putting forward and it’s weird to me you think Lily of all people would have died.

Ness i dont see why you think i would be the nk? I was being pushed pretty hard, so i was perfect to leave alive for d2 miselim.

Because i dont know how the game works lmao if it was me, I’d have kidnapped lily

I think i see this as, lily nk would give town no info because of inactivity, and would remove a general tr from the game? I may be wrong in what doo was thinking. But i thought it was good logic.

But why would the mafia want a lot of info provided? Surely they’d want to remove the least active people so we’re left clueless??

Do people seriously think I’m mafia? Cuz we’re not gonna get anywhere if everyone thinks that. If you don’t believe me then you can vote me out, maybe that’s the best way to move forwards but it does waste another day

The only way i could see you as maf is if you were framing ness. So if ness flipped red, it would mean you're town. If you flipped red, I'd be tr ness. I think you are more town than ness.

So i think a doo/ness team is not a thing.

I feel like it’s Ness and volt. Dan and Ness had opposite opinions but maybe it was all faked, they both seem to play mafia a lot

I dont know if i can see a ness/volt team, but i do think its one of them. If it were both, then the d1 'answer the question' thing would have to be faked.

Ness would you still be suspicious of Betsy if it wasn’t for me?

Hey that's a good question! Ness, what happens when i flip town? What would my townflip tell you about who is sus?

And also, consider a possible doo town flip. How would that affect your maf/team view?

i feel like ness and betsy figured each out during their arguments

Uh...no.
I haven't figured out ness and i don't know if he's figured out me.

Oh - and more ness/doo - this interaction, where doo quoted what they said previously.

This is what I said

And why do you feel the need to justify yourself on this exactly?

I was making it easy to find. And I thought that’s how you play the game.

Nobody asked you to do that though, makes it seem like you’re aware of how you look to others.

I’m sorry

For what?

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Maybe I was being unfair there.

Then doo says they were annoying and ness apologizes.

Oh no I’m actually sorry, I wasn’t saying that to make you feel bad. You’re not annoying me, I just kinda put on an act there to see what you’d say, it’s easy for things to come across as mean in this game

I don't like how ness says he just put on an act there. I think it's easy to put out the sus, and then backtrack later if nobody picks up what they put down.

But one thing i thing is sure - ness/doo team? No. Not a thing, lol.

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But at the same time, I also don't understand as to why "no exile" didn't get more votes so it would be wrong of me to sus only you of it.

Quick explanation- maf kills us at night. We can only get maf by voting them off. If we don't vote anyone off, we miss a chance at hitting maf. And the way people vote can give us something to work with next day.

Generally, most people are d1 elim advocates, even if it's wrong. Some are no elim d1 advocates.

With the timing yesterday, it just wasn't enough time to really think or switch from shell.

In conclusion, I am lost.

We're all a bit lost here.

 

[N e s s]

I’m almost tempted to pull out my Trump card to vote out Betsy or Dinosaur because I can’t be bothered to respond to all this nonsense

 

[BetsySundrop]

I’m almost tempted to pull out my Trump card to vote out Betsy or Dinosaur because I can’t be bothered to respond to all this nonsense

Boot betsy is a thing!

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But for real - if im town, and doo is town, who is the maf team?

 

[N e s s]

Actually yeah I’ll just say it now because I’m getting that feeling I’m going to be marinated for endgame if we miselim today (feeling pretty likely!)

I’m the Katrina Deliverer and I want to live to the next phase. I don’t really care about revealing this because with guardian dead I’m limited in my abilities, and frankly got my fingers crossed I get nightkilled! But I won’t go down without figuring this nonsense out and potentially give a cleared town member for tomorrow. Plenty of softs if you look back; Ribbit picked up on my softs and sucks that he died because I was confident he was town at EoD and it was why were working so closely.

“Broaden your mind,” “the tea leaves are telling me…”

And of course there’s my Harry Potter picture on page 1.

“I’m a kitty cat!!” “This cat’s gotta have pizazz…” what animal is Katrina exactly?

Now here’s what we’re going to do! I’m taking control of the show and I’m done letting everyone spout these objectively bad points that I’m evil. We’re going to look back at everyone who said “Ness is suspicious!” And we’re going to determine who was being honest and who was looking for an easy miselimination today.

@Watcher do me a solid and stay hidden for a bit? Relying on you to survive for my own survival.

 

[voltairenism]

im on mobile so this is gotta be awful, ill answer in bold inside the quote

I did say i had more to go over. Working on it. Sorry so slow.

But - yes, i was conflicted on doo at that point. Town logic, but possible coaching. Not individually super sus, but yes could fit in several possible teams. And i thought ribbit was onto something. But then, eod.



Yeah i thought that was a good point, because i thought you had ribbit town. Was it just dan who had ribbit town? I get confused w/ replacements.

it was dan. i explained why i sus ribbit a couple of posts before the post you quoted. its either lack of attention or straight up a lie and i dont tr either

Lol, in response to posts that doo flip could help.

After the vote-







To me, this seemed just resigned, not really upset? More apologetic town and not really wolfy. And another post doo said they were a villager. I remembered people saying they were town, vanilla, that kind of thing.

i completly disagree. it's just wifom. specially bc they voted shell just to save themself

But in the fast-paced eod craziness, doo said they were villager.


I don't know at what point ribbit thought well crap, doo is town, but that was where i thought well, crap, doo is town. Then we moved to shell.

again ribbit just thinks a mafia would always claim pr at eod

If doo is maf, there would have to be a lot of coaching. And doo sounds pretty natural in their confusion, which i think if coached maybe wouldn't?

This isn't a 'defense of doo' thing. It's just why i townlean.

But there's a couple more things.

i dont think it sounds natural. we cant rly argue abt this though since it's just vibes

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Actually yeah I’ll just say it now because I’m getting that feeling I’m going to be marinated for endgame if we miselim today (feeling pretty likely!)

I’m the Katrina Deliverer and I want to live to the next phase. I don’t really care about revealing this because with guardian dead I’m limited in my abilities, and frankly got my fingers crossed I get nightkilled! But I won’t go down without figuring this nonsense out and potentially give a cleared town member for tomorrow. Plenty of softs if you look back; Ribbit picked up on my softs and sucks that he died because I was confident he was town at EoD and it was why were working so closely.

“Broaden your mind,” “the tea leaves are telling me…”

And of course there’s my Harry Potter picture on page 1.

“I’m a kitty cat!!” “This cat’s gotta have pizazz…” what animal is Katrina exactly?

Now here’s what we’re going to do! I’m taking control of the show and I’m done letting everyone spout these objectively bad points that I’m evil. We’re going to look back at everyone who said “Ness is suspicious!” And we’re going to determine who was being honest and who was looking for an easy miselimination today.

@Watcher do me a solid and stay hidden for a bit? Relying on you to survive for my own survival.

i mean the tea leaves werent subtle but did u have to claim

 

[N e s s]

im on mobile so this is gotta be awful, ill answer in bold inside the quote


it was dan. i explained why i sus ribbit a couple of posts before the post you quoted. its either lack of attention or straight up a lie and i dont tr either


i completly disagree. it's just wifom. specially bc they voted shell just to save themself

again ribbit just thinks a mafia would always claim pr at eod

i dont think it sounds natural. we cant rly argue abt this though since it's just vibes

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i mean the tea leaves werent subtle but did u have to claim

I’m angry and want Betsy dead.

 

[BetsySundrop]

it was dan. i explained why i sus ribbit a couple of posts before the post you quoted. its either lack of attention or straight up a lie and i dont tr either

I was referring to earlier in the day. I know you and ness had both voted ribbit. But dan had ribbit top tr, and i thought you had also tr ribbit. That's why i asked if that was you or dan.

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I’m angry and want Betsy dead.

Go for it. But i think my logic is sound and one of you or volt is a likely wolf.

 

[N e s s]

And be so FR volt you can’t tell me we weren’t obviously gearing up for Betsy, Doo, and Bongo to all park their votes on me 1-2 hours before the end of the phase.

 

[BetsySundrop]

Actually yeah I’ll just say it now because I’m getting that feeling I’m going to be marinated for endgame if we miselim today (feeling pretty likely!)

I’m the Katrina Deliverer and I want to live to the next phase. I don’t really care about revealing this because with guardian dead I’m limited in my abilities, and frankly got my fingers crossed I get nightkilled! But I won’t go down without figuring this nonsense out and potentially give a cleared town member for tomorrow. Plenty of softs if you look back; Ribbit picked up on my softs and sucks that he died because I was confident he was town at EoD and it was why were working so closely.

“Broaden your mind,” “the tea leaves are telling me…”

And of course there’s my Harry Potter picture on page 1.

“I’m a kitty cat!!” “This cat’s gotta have pizazz…” what animal is Katrina exactly?

Now here’s what we’re going to do! I’m taking control of the show and I’m done letting everyone spout these objectively bad points that I’m evil. We’re going to look back at everyone who said “Ness is suspicious!” And we’re going to determine who was being honest and who was looking for an easy miselimination today.

@Watcher do me a solid and stay hidden for a bit? Relying on you to survive for my own survival.

Well i guess it must be volt then, lol.

 

[voltairenism]

And be so FR volt you can’t tell me we weren’t obviously gearing up for Betsy, Doo, and Bongo to all park their votes on me 1-2 hours before the end of the phase.

tf you mean

 

[BetsySundrop]

And be so FR volt you can’t tell me we weren’t obviously gearing up for Betsy, Doo, and Bongo to all park their votes on me 1-2 hours before the end of the phase.

Wth? I haven't parked my vote on you. I've excluded you and doo as a team, and asked who you think it was if not me or doi.

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Also on mobile - so im slow here, lol.

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again ribbit just thinks a mafia would always claim pr at eod

You think that's the only reason ribbot had doo town?

 

[N e s s]

Who have 4 of the alive players been exclusively talking about being suspicious the last 36 hours? Betsy, Doo, Bongo and Dinosaur. You really think they’d have voted for anyone other than myself later today?

 

[BetsySundrop]

Ok i have an idea. Kill me so i cant be used tomorrow. Watcher watch ness tonight. ?

 

[voltairenism]

Wth? I haven't parked my vote on you. I've excluded you and doo as a team, and asked who you think it was if not me or doi.

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Also on mobile - so im slow here, lol.

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You think that's the only reason ribbot had doo town?

yeah he was on that wagon until doo claimed vt

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Ok i have an idea. Kill me so i cant be used tomorrow. Watcher watch ness tonight. ?

disguiser

 

[BetsySundrop]

Who have 4 of the alive players been exclusively talking about being suspicious the last 36 hours? Betsy, Doo, Bongo and Dinosaur. You really think they’d have voted for anyone other than myself later today?

I was pushing boot betsy because i dont want miselim tomorrow.

But now - i think its gotta happen.

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yeah he was on that wagon until doo claimed vt

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disguiser

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Who have 4 of the alive players been exclusively talking about being suspicious the last 36 hours? Betsy, Doo, Bongo and Dinosaur. You really think they’d have voted for anyone other than myself later today?

Tbh, i havent seen much from any of them. I said last night id look at doo today, and i did.

 

[voltairenism]

Who have 4 of the alive players been exclusively talking about being suspicious the last 36 hours? Betsy, Doo, Bongo and Dinosaur. You really think they’d have voted for anyone other than myself later today?

i guess you have a point
idk in my head everyone was going to buy into my wagon

 

[N e s s]

Betsy I HATE with a passion how every single time I suggest you bring mafia your response is “well I’m town! big mistake!”

What am I supposed to believe, that you’re town aligned because you say so and you’ve pushed:

1. Ribbit for telling a joke on page 1 (do NOT tell me that it was open wolfing)
2. Myself for voting for Shell
3. Volt for reasons I still don’t understand

If you’re going to seriously convince me that you’re town, no more WIFOM. Give me one good reason to think it’s Volt and none of this “you have to vote me out this phase” excuses.

 

[BetsySundrop]

Betsy I HATE with a passion how every single time I suggest you bring mafia your response is “well I’m town! big mistake!”

What am I supposed to believe, that you’re town aligned because you say so and you’ve pushed:

1. Ribbit for telling a joke on page 1 (do NOT tell me that it was open wolfing)
2. Myself for voting for Shell
3. Volt for reasons I still don’t understand

If you’re going to seriously convince me that you’re town, no more WIFOM. Give me one good reason to think it’s Volt and none of this “you have to vote me out this phase” excuses.

Hey now, no need for hate. I'll address each point you made in order. Will be slow but am on mobile.

 

[FrostyAlmonds]

Actually yeah I’ll just say it now because I’m getting that feeling I’m going to be marinated for endgame if we miselim today (feeling pretty likely!)

I’m the Katrina Deliverer and I want to live to the next phase. I don’t really care about revealing this because with guardian dead I’m limited in my abilities, and frankly got my fingers crossed I get nightkilled! But I won’t go down without figuring this nonsense out and potentially give a cleared town member for tomorrow. Plenty of softs if you look back; Ribbit picked up on my softs and sucks that he died because I was confident he was town at EoD and it was why were working so closely.

“Broaden your mind,” “the tea leaves are telling me…”

And of course there’s my Harry Potter picture on page 1.

“I’m a kitty cat!!” “This cat’s gotta have pizazz…” what animal is Katrina exactly?

Now here’s what we’re going to do! I’m taking control of the show and I’m done letting everyone spout these objectively bad points that I’m evil. We’re going to look back at everyone who said “Ness is suspicious!” And we’re going to determine who was being honest and who was looking for an easy miselimination today.

@Watcher do me a solid and stay hidden for a bit? Relying on you to survive for my own survival.

GDI Ness!!! I was trying to tell you I got your soft and I was gonna defend you why did you out?

 

[BetsySundrop]

1. Ribbit for telling a joke on page 1 (do NOT tell me that it was open wolfing)

First point - it was not once. And it is partially connected to volt.

any thoughts on people being kidnapped? maybe we can buy tom nook back from redd with our cousin discounts.

hi sorry i was messaging ness in that extra discord chatroom tn4u opened up for us

And there was one more that felt that way later. 1, pfft. More than 1, i ask questions. Ribbit answered, said they were joking. Fine. But!

Very important! Geoni did a couple of similar "jokes" last game, and ended up maf.

But who fell for those jokes and believed geoni town? Volt. So when volt says open wolf jokes are NOT a possible wolf tell, after geoni did that very thing to volt - i thought it was weird.

you cant convince me that deadass you think joking on first page is a wolf tell

And even more important - ribbit confronted volt on why they thought ribbit was sus. What were all of the specific reasons. Volt (finally) answered with this-

i quoted above dude i feel like you are off compared to last game, where you had an edge and was actively shaking the thread and pushing town forward, now you are mostly just joshing around

So - jokes.

And yet volt pressed the hell outta me for digging into ribbits jokes. Wth?