PunchyTheCat
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Mafia TBT Mafia: Renaissance - Game Thread [ENDGAME - Town Wins]
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its just a little weird you told me im coasting and 180'd on me after saying u originally liked me after D1 ended. just seemed weird. esp with how flamboyant you were when you finally joined.
amazonevan19
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This is where I feel you were defending tae. Ok sure maybe it wasn't you straight up saying "Tae IS town" but come on you are certainly trying to cast them in a more positive light here.
Also Heyden and you have both rightly dinged me on the Heyden defending you part, I honestly have no idea where that came from looking back. I think I must've lumped in a post by glow and thought it came from Heyden.
It in fact seems Heyden has been rather suspicious of Panda. My apologies, so the potential pairing I have here is Panda and tae.
PandaDarling
Purple People Eater
still think your grasping at nothing there with your "pairing" but ok.....
PandaDarling
Purple People Eater
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
Ok so here’s how I’m going to break down the info we can derive from the N1 kills
Generally the three things you do whenever anyone dies is figure out the following:
I am too lazy to comb through what everyone thought about Daniel and Emolga atm except to point out that Daniel was largely townread by most everyone even though some people (including yours truly) had minor reservations over maybe him pulling a really good act. People seemed more likely to be suspicious of Emolga, again including yours truly, who put Emolga in a potential boat with Locket and Sheabae.
Also, probably something helpful we should do is determine timeframe of who was in the thread when Antonio claimed and how fast that news might have spread for maf to potentially change their action. A list of who was here when the claim happened and in its aftermath would be good and I’m too lazy to do it now, but I’m sticking the suggestion here for either me to pick up later or someone else to do
I look forward to this and would you mind explaining why scum Harbour would permit a townie that TR'd them to die? Granted, Daniel's Harbour TR came only minutes before EoD but still.
Like I've said before, I think we can start digging up suspicious **** on almost anyone at this point, but the real question is, who's on a team with who? And that is something I need to leave for tomorrow
Generally the three things you do whenever anyone dies is figure out the following:
- Who the deceased townread and sussed
- Who sussed and townread the deceased
- How the deceased voted
- Daniel’s last post before dying (smartly pushed out right before EoD cuz he likely had a gut instinct that he was going to die based on what he said) townread Punchy, Geoni, Mog, and Harbor, null read Trundle, Antonio, and Locket, and sussed: Panda, glow, and sheabae. Daniel ultimately voted for the Jacob wagon.
- Emolga seemed to townread trundle and Antonio, sussed Daniel early on? Emolga ultimately voted for Trundle EoD 1 but seemed to townread Trundle after the fact?
I am too lazy to comb through what everyone thought about Daniel and Emolga atm except to point out that Daniel was largely townread by most everyone even though some people (including yours truly) had minor reservations over maybe him pulling a really good act. People seemed more likely to be suspicious of Emolga, again including yours truly, who put Emolga in a potential boat with Locket and Sheabae.
Also, probably something helpful we should do is determine timeframe of who was in the thread when Antonio claimed and how fast that news might have spread for maf to potentially change their action. A list of who was here when the claim happened and in its aftermath would be good and I’m too lazy to do it now, but I’m sticking the suggestion here for either me to pick up later or someone else to do
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I look forward to this and would you mind explaining why scum Harbour would permit a townie that TR'd them to die? Granted, Daniel's Harbour TR came only minutes before EoD but still.
Like I've said before, I think we can start digging up suspicious **** on almost anyone at this point, but the real question is, who's on a team with who? And that is something I need to leave for tomorrow
PandaDarling
Purple People Eater
Evan ... if Emolga was a mafia kill, they probably picked them to give us as little information as possible from their death, killing them essentially didn't help us determine much of anything and I honestly don't think Harbour would have much of a say as to who got killed given their expecerince, tbh... and Daniel was most likely killed cause most of us were getting a def town vibe from him.
@amazonevan19 what do you think about the possibility of one of the kills being done by a vig and maf was somehow blocked
damn I think he’s sleeping
also idk why it says post edit I never edited lol
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damn I think he’s sleeping
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also idk why it says post edit I never edited lol
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dan died for this post btw !
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Antonio
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Scum probably took my bait when I stated that my Mason partner was inactive. They voted off who they thought was most inactive, which was emolga.Ok so here’s how I’m going to break down the info we can derive from the N1 kills
Generally the three things you do whenever anyone dies is figure out the following:
So let’s look at what both Daniel and Emolga did, especially during the N1 phase when mafia were likely figuring out who to kill:
- Who the deceased townread and sussed
- Who sussed and townread the deceased
- How the deceased voted
Frankly I see nothing in Emolga that warranted a maf kill unless they were, again, attempting a bluesnipe. No offense to them but if I were maf I def wouldn’t have picked them. Emolga spent much of their time asking questions and trying to figure stuff out – which is understandable for someone being new. They def tried their best but again, if I were in maf's shoes, I def wouldn't off them unless I figured they could've been a blue, since they didn't seem that threatening.
- Daniel’s last post before dying (smartly pushed out right before EoD cuz he likely had a gut instinct that he was going to die based on what he said) townread Punchy, Geoni, Mog, and Harbor, null read Trundle, Antonio, and Locket, and sussed: Panda, glow, and sheabae. Daniel ultimately voted for the Jacob wagon.
- Emolga seemed to townread trundle and Antonio, sussed Daniel early on? Emolga ultimately voted for Trundle EoD 1 but seemed to townread Trundle after the fact?
I am too lazy to comb through what everyone thought about Daniel and Emolga atm except to point out that Daniel was largely townread by most everyone even though some people (including yours truly) had minor reservations over maybe him pulling a really good act. People seemed more likely to be suspicious of Emolga, again including yours truly, who put Emolga in a potential boat with Locket and Sheabae.
Also, probably something helpful we should do is determine timeframe of who was in the thread when Antonio claimed and how fast that news might have spread for maf to potentially change their action. A list of who was here when the claim happened and in its aftermath would be good and I’m too lazy to do it now, but I’m sticking the suggestion here for either me to pick up later or someone else to do
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I look forward to this and would you mind explaining why scum Harbour would permit a townie that TR'd them to die? Granted, Daniel's Harbour TR came only minutes before EoD but still.
Like I've said before, I think we can start digging up suspicious **** on almost anyone at this point, but the real question is, who's on a team with who? And that is something I need to leave for tomorrow
I find it weird scum decided to vote off such a good active player along with an inactive unknown player.
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fr tho, I should be going to bed
night
Geoni
You're doing great!
Harbour, complete ISO as of page 79:
My only note here is that I think Harbour and shaebae can still be teamed and the inclusion in the three could have been jokey distancing and the answer she gave about being careful about every word as mafia makes me wanna see what the tone is if that's a true concern.
Thought my toneread of f11 was a joke. It was a pretty quick read and easy to question I guess.
Didn't like shawo's reaction to Heyden's rqs joke answer of putting shawo in it. Shawo just joked in response so idk why Harbour wanted my take about it.
Such a reachy point against shawo if anything. Who had people not liking him at the time.
Was responding to Trundle readily reading Emolga as town from very little. Not sure what to really make of that other than it criticizes someone making reads with what little is there.
What looks consistent when it comes to that is Harbour not liking meta reads which can be argued as forming reads on something small. Criticizes Punchy for making a contradiction I don't see? Then rants about meta which melds with Punchy's playstyle rubbing them the wrong way. I hate that this feels towny but it still does. Still a tad bit overcritical of Punchy not reading enough people, feels like a means to hold onto a Punchy sus.
Response to Dan felt uninformed about shawo so it didn't come across like someone who was in a quicktopic but you don't ask your teammates about every little thing so it can still be uninformed scum. Suddenly dials back on the shawo sus.
In regards to some bullet points at the end...not sure what to make of her reading Dino as town for the reason given, may be tmi. Harbour is yet another person who took my big brain pairing moment too serious, maybe to make me look disagreeable. Null read on Trundle is reserved, shaebae feels like it could still be distancing, rails on shawo after all calling him her biggest sus.
This felt so conditional in regards to shawo but it is consistent. Still finds Punchy flippant which is much more specific. "However"
Okay, sure, she's overwhelmed. She was null on Trundle and said nothing about Jacob, it felt like an organic lead-in to being off wagon and that's probably why I I initially forgave it but it avoids having town blood on her hands regardless.
Feels like something that could have been asked about in a quicktopic but it's not impossible to take those questions to the thread knowing it would make you seem unfamiliar.
Beginning of this was a response to Jacob. It felt like a calm enough response to sus albeit by someone who became a top wagon and then lynched.
Panda was railing on her earlier and may be the first to catch onto her so the echo of the Panda concerns keep up the sus on her while also looking considerate about it and as for glow...unaligned, that's for sure.
Falls back on Punchy and doesn't really discuss the top wagons at hand. Not being caught up? It's a fair enough excuse so that's frustrating.
Panda said she was fine lynching Harbour or Trundle.
Disagrees with no lynch but is considerate about it. Feels like a way of saying 'okay you came around and satisfied my condition time to move onto the alternative'.
Sort of the continuation of what I said above.
The question is fair and maintains heat on Panda for sussing a new face over something so simple.
Bleh late popin, was present but not THERE for EoD but had the not caught up excuse.
Even more bleh because it's critical of participants if the Jacob wagon. A low-key way of saying 'I was right to not be on that'
And I say that because of how she followed up here.
Valid excuse but an excuse nevertheless considering that she was escaping looking bad and calls the Jacob wagon bad.
Teammate might have been on Panda?
Talks about bluesniping already and that's a TBT exclusive term. Emolga looked like a snipe.
This was 17 minutes left to end of night so it's not like Emolga was killed for the specific sake of framing Harbour because that's too genius and not really the case due to how Harbour enters day 2. As of now that's just two posts below:
She was talking to f11 about asking if shawo was blocked. That's the first thing said, not the following, which is the reaction to the kills. It should be reversed but it isn't and it feels like Harbour was lurking and knew who died before saying the following:
"Honestly yikes though"
YIKES. You acknowledged that you townread both of them in your previous list and they were both at the top of it as your only fully green names. Really slippery.
She's scummy and I see the way in which she's navigating all this.
I could unpack the recent readslist further but I'm exhausted with this ISO.
tl;dr: Harbour is scum.
Holy hell that exhausted me but I feel strongly about it because if that 'oh ****' moment that hit me when Panda quoted his reads I was about to compliment.
Heyden could be a partner imo.
Gross defense of Harbour, Evan. Dan was widely townread it didn't matter if he townread Harbour, he was helping the PoE and was very analytical, showing leading power. That's why his death in no way defends Harbour.
My only note here is that I think Harbour and shaebae can still be teamed and the inclusion in the three could have been jokey distancing and the answer she gave about being careful about every word as mafia makes me wanna see what the tone is if that's a true concern.
Thought my toneread of f11 was a joke. It was a pretty quick read and easy to question I guess.
Didn't like shawo's reaction to Heyden's rqs joke answer of putting shawo in it. Shawo just joked in response so idk why Harbour wanted my take about it.
Such a reachy point against shawo if anything. Who had people not liking him at the time.
Was responding to Trundle readily reading Emolga as town from very little. Not sure what to really make of that other than it criticizes someone making reads with what little is there.
What looks consistent when it comes to that is Harbour not liking meta reads which can be argued as forming reads on something small. Criticizes Punchy for making a contradiction I don't see? Then rants about meta which melds with Punchy's playstyle rubbing them the wrong way. I hate that this feels towny but it still does. Still a tad bit overcritical of Punchy not reading enough people, feels like a means to hold onto a Punchy sus.
Response to Dan felt uninformed about shawo so it didn't come across like someone who was in a quicktopic but you don't ask your teammates about every little thing so it can still be uninformed scum. Suddenly dials back on the shawo sus.
In regards to some bullet points at the end...not sure what to make of her reading Dino as town for the reason given, may be tmi. Harbour is yet another person who took my big brain pairing moment too serious, maybe to make me look disagreeable. Null read on Trundle is reserved, shaebae feels like it could still be distancing, rails on shawo after all calling him her biggest sus.
This felt so conditional in regards to shawo but it is consistent. Still finds Punchy flippant which is much more specific. "However"
Okay, sure, she's overwhelmed. She was null on Trundle and said nothing about Jacob, it felt like an organic lead-in to being off wagon and that's probably why I I initially forgave it but it avoids having town blood on her hands regardless.
Feels like something that could have been asked about in a quicktopic but it's not impossible to take those questions to the thread knowing it would make you seem unfamiliar.
Beginning of this was a response to Jacob. It felt like a calm enough response to sus albeit by someone who became a top wagon and then lynched.
Panda was railing on her earlier and may be the first to catch onto her so the echo of the Panda concerns keep up the sus on her while also looking considerate about it and as for glow...unaligned, that's for sure.
Falls back on Punchy and doesn't really discuss the top wagons at hand. Not being caught up? It's a fair enough excuse so that's frustrating.
Panda said she was fine lynching Harbour or Trundle.
Disagrees with no lynch but is considerate about it. Feels like a way of saying 'okay you came around and satisfied my condition time to move onto the alternative'.
Sort of the continuation of what I said above.
The question is fair and maintains heat on Panda for sussing a new face over something so simple.
Bleh late popin, was present but not THERE for EoD but had the not caught up excuse.
Even more bleh because it's critical of participants if the Jacob wagon. A low-key way of saying 'I was right to not be on that'
And I say that because of how she followed up here.
Valid excuse but an excuse nevertheless considering that she was escaping looking bad and calls the Jacob wagon bad.
Teammate might have been on Panda?
Talks about bluesniping already and that's a TBT exclusive term. Emolga looked like a snipe.
This was 17 minutes left to end of night so it's not like Emolga was killed for the specific sake of framing Harbour because that's too genius and not really the case due to how Harbour enters day 2. As of now that's just two posts below:
She was talking to f11 about asking if shawo was blocked. That's the first thing said, not the following, which is the reaction to the kills. It should be reversed but it isn't and it feels like Harbour was lurking and knew who died before saying the following:
"Honestly yikes though"
YIKES. You acknowledged that you townread both of them in your previous list and they were both at the top of it as your only fully green names. Really slippery.
She's scummy and I see the way in which she's navigating all this.
I could unpack the recent readslist further but I'm exhausted with this ISO.
tl;dr: Harbour is scum.
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Holy hell that exhausted me but I feel strongly about it because if that 'oh ****' moment that hit me when Panda quoted his reads I was about to compliment.
Heyden could be a partner imo.
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Ok so here’s how I’m going to break down the info we can derive from the N1 kills
Generally the three things you do whenever anyone dies is figure out the following:
So let’s look at what both Daniel and Emolga did, especially during the N1 phase when mafia were likely figuring out who to kill:
- Who the deceased townread and sussed
- Who sussed and townread the deceased
- How the deceased voted
Frankly I see nothing in Emolga that warranted a maf kill unless they were, again, attempting a bluesnipe. No offense to them but if I were maf I def wouldn’t have picked them. Emolga spent much of their time asking questions and trying to figure stuff out – which is understandable for someone being new. They def tried their best but again, if I were in maf's shoes, I def wouldn't off them unless I figured they could've been a blue, since they didn't seem that threatening.
- Daniel’s last post before dying (smartly pushed out right before EoD cuz he likely had a gut instinct that he was going to die based on what he said) townread Punchy, Geoni, Mog, and Harbor, null read Trundle, Antonio, and Locket, and sussed: Panda, glow, and sheabae. Daniel ultimately voted for the Jacob wagon.
- Emolga seemed to townread trundle and Antonio, sussed Daniel early on? Emolga ultimately voted for Trundle EoD 1 but seemed to townread Trundle after the fact?
I am too lazy to comb through what everyone thought about Daniel and Emolga atm except to point out that Daniel was largely townread by most everyone even though some people (including yours truly) had minor reservations over maybe him pulling a really good act. People seemed more likely to be suspicious of Emolga, again including yours truly, who put Emolga in a potential boat with Locket and Sheabae.
Also, probably something helpful we should do is determine timeframe of who was in the thread when Antonio claimed and how fast that news might have spread for maf to potentially change their action. A list of who was here when the claim happened and in its aftermath would be good and I’m too lazy to do it now, but I’m sticking the suggestion here for either me to pick up later or someone else to do
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I look forward to this and would you mind explaining why scum Harbour would permit a townie that TR'd them to die? Granted, Daniel's Harbour TR came only minutes before EoD but still.
Like I've said before, I think we can start digging up suspicious **** on almost anyone at this point, but the real question is, who's on a team with who? And that is something I need to leave for tomorrow
Gross defense of Harbour, Evan. Dan was widely townread it didn't matter if he townread Harbour, he was helping the PoE and was very analytical, showing leading power. That's why his death in no way defends Harbour.
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Geoni
You're doing great!
uWu mafia team is Harbour/Heyden/Evan/shaebae kappa no kappa
That's my guess if Harbour does in fact flip red, at least.
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That's my guess if Harbour does in fact flip red, at least.
glow
not ur aesthetic
Ok so here’s how I’m going to break down the info we can derive from the N1 kills
Generally the three things you do whenever anyone dies is figure out the following:
So let’s look at what both Daniel and Emolga did, especially during the N1 phase when mafia were likely figuring out who to kill:
- Who the deceased townread and sussed
- Who sussed and townread the deceased
- How the deceased voted
Frankly I see nothing in Emolga that warranted a maf kill unless they were, again, attempting a bluesnipe. No offense to them but if I were maf I def wouldn’t have picked them. Emolga spent much of their time asking questions and trying to figure stuff out – which is understandable for someone being new. They def tried their best but again, if I were in maf's shoes, I def wouldn't off them unless I figured they could've been a blue, since they didn't seem that threatening.
- Daniel’s last post before dying (smartly pushed out right before EoD cuz he likely had a gut instinct that he was going to die based on what he said) townread Punchy, Geoni, Mog, and Harbor, null read Trundle, Antonio, and Locket, and sussed: Panda, glow, and sheabae. Daniel ultimately voted for the Jacob wagon.
- Emolga seemed to townread trundle and Antonio, sussed Daniel early on? Emolga ultimately voted for Trundle EoD 1 but seemed to townread Trundle after the fact?
I am too lazy to comb through what everyone thought about Daniel and Emolga atm except to point out that Daniel was largely townread by most everyone even though some people (including yours truly) had minor reservations over maybe him pulling a really good act. People seemed more likely to be suspicious of Emolga, again including yours truly, who put Emolga in a potential boat with Locket and Sheabae.
Also, probably something helpful we should do is determine timeframe of who was in the thread when Antonio claimed and how fast that news might have spread for maf to potentially change their action. A list of who was here when the claim happened and in its aftermath would be good and I’m too lazy to do it now, but I’m sticking the suggestion here for either me to pick up later or someone else to do
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I look forward to this and would you mind explaining why scum Harbour would permit a townie that TR'd them to die? Granted, Daniel's Harbour TR came only minutes before EoD but still.
Like I've said before, I think we can start digging up suspicious **** on almost anyone at this point, but the real question is, who's on a team with who? And that is something I need to leave for tomorrow
you know, it kind of surprises me that you didn't go back and take a look at locket's reads on the dead? especially cos you are seemingly the type to put weight into interactions, your post here is evidence of that
that was the first thing i did when i was thinking about locket over when i was writing in reply to geoni.
what do you think of that? do you think locket sr'd daniel (widely TR'd player) as scum knowing that he was dying??
locket null'd everyone else........................ also wow i didn't notice til right now that locket ALSO fos'd emolga, just saw it when i was trying to color code the quote. i thought it was just daniel.
like would locket, as mafia, really make 2/3 of his SR's future-dead town 20 minutes before night ends. LOL it just makes them look awful for no reason, plus typically mafia need to try to lay a basis or an outline for their d2 pushes on n1. locket would be really narrowing down their push potentials and would need to create future content to back up their reads. in which case, as mafia, why even bother typing up a meh-effort post like this
locket's reads @ 1,255 [soz i accidentally broke the quote]
PandaDarling
Purple People Eater
glow what are your thoughts on Harbour ? and Geoni's read on her ?
glow
not ur aesthetic
is.....is it just me or does evan's narrative feel off here?
panda and hayden are HIGHLY incompatible as a pair. i think it is kinda obvious that hayden legitimately would have blitzed panda d1 and there was likely votes to do it if i voted in kind, which i stated that i was open to in thread (i hadn't mentioned my hesitancy bc of what shawo said)
as for tae/panda, i don't really see that either but at least i can see why you said that
Interesting take Geoni.....
Evan is lowkey townlock for me, if he's mafia just lynch me lmfaoooo. I cannot fathom him being anything other than town so I really hope I'm right.
Sheabae I have 0 comment on, their activity is deliberately scummy imo, I don't think I can come to a conclusion based on their few posts for now, or ever honestly, idk nothing they've said is remotely AI.
I do agree I've kind of neglected the idea of Harbour because Panda's been tunnelling her the whole game and I don't trust Panda at all, but looking at Panda's posts it's a VERY weak tunnel. Panda's vote was based on her own thoughts and she wasn't really trying to convince anyone to vote Harbour only stating 'her awkward RQS'. Feels like weak bussing if Harbour is indeed scum.
Harbour has definitely been neglected, and DinoTown is in the same boat (I fear they'll replace out given the sheer amount of posts)
On the topic of Harbour, the thing that immediately struck out to me and I remember clearly was [I put names in an RNG and got these 3 people], like ??? I perceive as pretending to contribute, but she actually contributed nothing, using RNG as an excuse to drive the idea that her guess had no substance.
Her response to me speculating 4/5 mafia/SK was interesting, bringing up kill power. I've been trying to figure out a stance on this sentence for 10 minutes but I literally can't. KP is mentioned in the host's introduction in scum chat, so the fact that she's talking about a varying KP rather than the amount of mafia members, maybe I'm overthinking it but something isn't right about this sentence?
Her reads list though she seems to be working from top to bottom since she started from Daniel and ended at sheabea, did she ever end up posting the latter half? I do think it's awkward that her strong townreads both died, as if she was trying to get brownie points when they flipped, and she made sure to bring it up at the beginning of D2 post which is rather weird and forceful.
There was no previous read on Daniel/Emolga too, even questioning Trundle's townread on Emolga..? It's so mildly convenient.
Evan is lowkey townlock for me, if he's mafia just lynch me lmfaoooo. I cannot fathom him being anything other than town so I really hope I'm right.
Sheabae I have 0 comment on, their activity is deliberately scummy imo, I don't think I can come to a conclusion based on their few posts for now, or ever honestly, idk nothing they've said is remotely AI.
I do agree I've kind of neglected the idea of Harbour because Panda's been tunnelling her the whole game and I don't trust Panda at all, but looking at Panda's posts it's a VERY weak tunnel. Panda's vote was based on her own thoughts and she wasn't really trying to convince anyone to vote Harbour only stating 'her awkward RQS'. Feels like weak bussing if Harbour is indeed scum.
Harbour has definitely been neglected, and DinoTown is in the same boat (I fear they'll replace out given the sheer amount of posts)
On the topic of Harbour, the thing that immediately struck out to me and I remember clearly was [I put names in an RNG and got these 3 people], like ??? I perceive as pretending to contribute, but she actually contributed nothing, using RNG as an excuse to drive the idea that her guess had no substance.
Her response to me speculating 4/5 mafia/SK was interesting, bringing up kill power. I've been trying to figure out a stance on this sentence for 10 minutes but I literally can't. KP is mentioned in the host's introduction in scum chat, so the fact that she's talking about a varying KP rather than the amount of mafia members, maybe I'm overthinking it but something isn't right about this sentence?
Her reads list though she seems to be working from top to bottom since she started from Daniel and ended at sheabea, did she ever end up posting the latter half? I do think it's awkward that her strong townreads both died, as if she was trying to get brownie points when they flipped, and she made sure to bring it up at the beginning of D2 post which is rather weird and forceful.
There was no previous read on Daniel/Emolga too, even questioning Trundle's townread on Emolga..? It's so mildly convenient.
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