A gather of Toad info w/ my thoughts
This isn't necessarily a scum read, but for those who are completely lost on what to think about Toad, here is my take on the majority of his posts, from last night.
Read it if you want.
oh hell, this is terrible!
The only people who interacted with me and called me out were those two. If I was mafia I would have definitely picked anyone but them. But whoever did pick Meow and Panda was smart. I think the mafia has to be made up of the eldest and most experienced players because they knew to pick the organizers of us all, and the people doing most of the accusations.
I basically was pressured to unvote you though. Panda was calling me out every minute to unvote you
you told me to unvote inkling too
on what grounds? you are all over the place?
These were quotes early on the beginning of D2. Reguarding the first post, toad basically gave little helpful info actually, just glorifying the scum team. Could be a newbie move but I don't know. Also i'd hardly call M3ow_ one of the "organizers," because she barely posted.
The other quotes are his desperate responses as to why he was hesitant about his votes D1. He "kept being pressured" to change his vote. He shouldn't have to be afraid of read's from Panda off of his votes unless he was scared she would prove his scumminess.
I was thinking the same about Crys
but why would they claim jester so quick? like if I wanted to get lynched, I could do it in so many better ways than openly saying that... could they be claiming jester to avoid not being lynching because they are mafia?
with this I want to lynch crys at this point
or look at my reasoning behind lynching Crys! does it not make an "inkling' of sense?
this is literally the first time you have said seriously lets lynch someone the entire game! why are you acting so differently now?
thats because you were all over the place at the same time too, and telling us to lynch you, and spouting nonsense the whole day. But now you want to seriously point blame at the first person calling you mafia.
I say Crys is not Jester, not watcher, and played crazy yesterday to make us think they were jester so we would know not to Lynch them. I can't say why they would pick who they did, but thats because theres probably multiple opinions amongst mafia. But look, they are trying to play rationally now that I'm calling them out. Its completely different. I see them playing to "hide out in the open" and using jester claims to keep us from lynching them.
These we're the majority of his posts and focus earlier D2. Although fairly weak reasoning, I am a little glad he took the initiative to actually start making sense of what Crys was trying to do. Great, it gave us something to work with. But everytime Crys came back with a response, he got very defensive (like scum N e s s did in previous games keep in mind) and would lash out saying "Why should we believe you??"
He even got mad when Crys would come back with something intelligent and helpful. Not really understanding of the possibility they are town aligned.
So, Toad wanted to believe that Crys is actually not a 3rd party, which is a possibility, and said that she was trying to trick us so we wouldn't vote them yada yada. I'm hoping he has a little more to say about this though, I don't know how to feel about it. It could have just been a weak way to get a vote in so no one will accuse him of voting without consent.
and honestly, do you think any mafia is going to be the first to speak up ever? especially someone like myself who is in their second mafia game ever? All the mafia are gonna be quiet this early and avoid any confrontation, unless they are trying to be all over the place and get people to not vote them because they are claiming jester.
You may be right, but this sounds to me like an attempt to make people think you aren't scum. This type of wording and reasoning is
very common with new scum players.
oh i said that way early day 1... because I remember seeing on the other mafia game "mafia power: 1" so I was wondering if this was a situation where that would change
I thought you meant like at the start of day 2, sorry for yelling a second ago
I just posted apologizing about yelling... people were talking at the start of day 2 about the power of mafia and I did not say that then. I do remember questioning the power of mafia, but I asked a lot of questions at the start of the game, but then stopped because panda yelled at us to read the rules.
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and ok, you've been lurking this whole time and just now posted this
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in the last game too, I was quieter until the end of day 1, then came out accusatory day 2... thats not a regression
I guess that is true, but were calling him out on being mafia and he decides to make a read about me for the first time
These posts we're directed to Dolby. They could have a lot of meaning if you look at the hostility he has towards Dolby when he comes in and helps by posting a read. Again, Toad gets defensive when someone calls him scummy. Interesting.
literally why is anyone listening to Crys! they kept saying lynch them yesterday, then said lynch everyone under the sun! but today they come up with some bs claim and were all taking into consideration anything they are saying!
Like why does that make any sense at all! someone please explain why they are taking in anything they say, what credibility do they actually have!
We need to consider anything and everything Crys says. Crys is a very experienced player and probably knows what they are doing. Are they third party? I don't know, probably. Crys is most likely playing a big *** reaction test for everyone else cuz they don't care for this game much. Again I don't know. What I do know is Crys is not helping town very much at all.
Anyone who is deliberately confusing town should have their posts be taken into consideration, at the very least.
Now I am not really trying to start a lynch on Toad right now, these are just here for a baseline. I am hoping someone else will pick up with what I started and try to get something out of this.
