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Oh and, in my opinion, the Jello thing should be dropped. I really don't see how they're coming across as suspicious, and I'll be looking at the people who kept bring it back up.

I don't know why, but this raised my suspicions. I inherently believe that Yui is Town, but I'm kind of curious as to why she's defending JellofishXD like that. It just merely caught my attention, and I'm going to keep a closer eye on both of them. I do not want to risk losing any Town, so unless some substantial evidence pops up, I'm still going for No Lynch.
 
Okay after spending a couple of hours going through the thread, I think I finally have some raw notes. My thoughts are spiraling all over the place a bit, so please bear with me on this.

Just to say, if you see your name on this post then it doesn't mean I'm suspicious of you. These are only mere thoughts from when I was checking each post.




I'll start with NikkiNikki, and I'm going to also mention that I'm fully aware that they're a newbie.
Okay so you are the miller and VillageDweller is Lindsey Lohan.
hmm I just find it odd of how people are already roleclaiming..
Let's just forget for a moment that Harry/VD was trolling. This is just stating the obvious of what has already been said. Some people may do this to gather their thoughts, but I really don't think this was necessary.

It gives the impression that they might be posting to make it look like they're trying to be useful, when actually they could be scum. They might be scum trying to act helpful without slipping into the spotlight.

I do find role claiming at the beginning fishy, but the reasons sataric gives to as why he/she did it I believe I could trust them. Like oaf said its "so crazy it might just work".
Again, basically repeating what had already been said, only they've rephrased it a little.

It is suspicious that jellofishXD would say this, but as everyone else said he is a newbie and can make mistakes. However I will keep an eye on him.
Oath picked up on this one earlier, saying it sounds like they're "not wanting to point fingers posting." I know I said before that I'm not suspicious of Jello at the moment, but that's because I don't feel that them using the word 'shooting' is something mafia would say.

On the other hand, it also seems like they're bandwagoning but also trying to make it seem like they're not. If that makes any sense? Mainly because of the last sentence, "However I will keep my eye on him", makes it more subtle and less, 'I agree that we should lynch them because they're suspicious'.

The rest of their posts have been questions, which of course is fine being new and all. However, if they are town then it would be helpful for them to step up their game a little and post their own opinions, rather than stating the obvious and feeling the need to bandwagon/posting one liners.

Similar conclusion on Capella really, although Nikki is the one who stood out to me the most. I really am trying to keep in mind that they're new players, and it may not be the best idea to lynch first time players (not sure if this is Nikki 's first game), since we don't know their play style just yet.

These are just notes to keep in mind.




Next up is a really brief read on Natty. Someone mentioned a good point to me that Natty, being a more experienced player than some in this game, should know better than to suggest someone as suspicious over the word 'shooting'.
However, I did also notice that they never actually said that Jello was full on suspicious, but simply pointed a part of it out.




Kyuby is another newbie, however I think they could do a lot better if they posted their opinions more. Not one of their posts so far give me the impression that they're trying their best. Their only post which actually has some content in it is this one:
I meant what do guys have for now , like who do you suspect from lol, I see the cases on Jello and staratic and mewmew? claiming to be the millers, last mini mafia game I clamied I was the miller at day one, they still lynched me at day 2 so I wouldnt suggets doing it
All I'm asking is that you post less one-liners and try and add some more content into your posts. I just remember from P.O.I where you kept saying you'd try harder, but we never really saw it from you. I'm not holding that game against you by the way, and I'm hoping you plan to try harder this game and will post your opinions/thoughts more.



Now I'm coming to the Jello suspicions. I have already made it clear that I'm not suspicious of Jello at the moment. Lots of these people have backed down on their suspicions, however this is also part of the reason I'm bringing them up.

So the first person to actually point this out is tinytaylor
Are you claiming you have the ability to shoot?
I don't think shoot would be a good term to use in mafia... imo
I'm only including this because they were the first to quote it, and I have no suspicions of tinytaylor whatsoever at the moment. I feel that they've been trying in their first game.

The first to actually point out that they found Jello's post suspicious is ccemuka.
Wooh! Finished reading everything. The only person I have a suspicion on is JeloFish

Here he said "shoot". The only people who can shoot are vigs and Mafia. This might be a simple typo but, I'm watching you.

Literally three minutes after that's posted, Gingersnap agrees with no questions asked.

Can't Vigs be town in some instances too though?
But nethertheless, I am pretty suspicious of Jello as well. Pretty unlikely "typo" if you ask me.

A couple of hours later, Ginger changes their mind and decides this:
Jello being a new player makes sense, replacing "shoot" with "lynch" seems like a valid mistake.
I feel like they're trying to stay low and stick with the crowd. It's okay to have your own opinions and all, but also baring in mind that they're a newbie. This is just something that scum might do to avoid disagreements and drawing attention to themselves.



Remember, these are only my thoughts and some of this is just me putting stuff out there for other people to take as they will.

I'll briefly mention Aerious, also a newbie.

jello scum

Seems to jump very quickly to:

In my experience with mafia, I have only ever seen one miller. Sataric and Alice are both claiming plastic; however, Alice was the one who specified that the role name is Junior Plastic. Sataric never specified that in their first, extremely long post so I'm leaning on him to be a PR or a mafia. Jello is also highly suspicious.

My vote for first lynch is Sataric.




This next one might make me sound like a bit of a hypocrite, however I've explained my reasoning already. Bringing up Prin next.

I am willing to wait on the whole Jello thing.
Imo, I think we should vote whoever claimed second on the Miller thing, and tonight if we dont lynch one of them then a DT could check the most suspicious, and if they show up mafia, then we know that one is miller for sure? And if its not, lynch the other?
Why should we lynch Alice? If anyone out of the two who have claimed miller so far, Sataric should be the suspicious one. But no, I don't think Sataric comes across as suspicious so far at all. "I am willing to wait on the whole Jello thing", is something that was already said several times. Seems like they're trying to avoid disagreement, or make it look like they've posted their thoughts on the Jello thing.

This post seems very scummy to me, and I think Sataric already brought this up. So I agree. It would be a waste of an inspection for the DT to check Alice/Sataric when they've gained most people's trust (especially Alice).

However they did say this afterwards:

OK, thanks to what oath/everybody said, I'm off of Sataric and Alice.
It looks like we're headed the inactive route, as per usual.

It might be that they're scum trying get town to waste a lynch/inspection but, when they realized that nobody was going to agree, they chose to take them off their suspicions.




Dow GAWD sake it's a HE!! no lat games I didn't Rly help out much and I was Rly dissapointed with the fact that I had the ability to help but didn't Rly help as much as I wanted to I just said two suspicions and the rest was just posts defending myself. So I wanna change dis so im try a post a lot more then before I Rly wanna help town win and I hope we do because last game we lost when I had such an amazin role once ppl start to become extremely town like illl definitely be pm ing them my role!

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Remember inactives may be a tree
Just wanted to say that I found it a little difficult to understand this.




In conclusion, I think we should lynch an inactive. This whole post may seem like I'm picking on all of the newbies but, honestly, they're just the things that stuck out to me. Only thoughts.
I don't have too many suspicions at this point anyway. Hopefully this wasn't a complete waste of time and all the stuff here isn't seen as useless.

If people ignore this then I'll probably sulk because it took forever to type up, let alone to go through the thread and pick things out.

It won't take as long to read this post as it was to type it all! :)

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Probably my longest post ever in mafia.

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I don't know why, but this raised my suspicions. I inherently believe that Yui is Town, but I'm kind of curious as to why she's defending JellofishXD like that. It just merely caught my attention, and I'm going to keep a closer eye on both of them. I do not want to risk losing any Town, so unless some substantial evidence pops up, I'm still going for No Lynch.
I'm allowed to have my own opinions, and I just don't see Jello as suspicious at this point. It was only one word that got everyone thinking about that, and that word doesn't ring any alarm bells to me.
 
I'll start with NikkiNikki, and I'm going to also mention that I'm fully aware that they're a newbie.

Let's just forget for a moment that Harry/VD was trolling. This is just stating the obvious of what has already been said. Some people may do this to gather their thoughts, but I really don't think this was necessary.

It gives the impression that they might be posting to make it look like they're trying to be useful, when actually they could be scum. They might be scum trying to act helpful without slipping into the spotlight.


Again, basically repeating what had already been said, only they've rephrased it a little.


Oath picked up on this one earlier, saying it sounds like they're "not wanting to point fingers posting." I know I said before that I'm not suspicious of Jello at the moment, but that's because I don't feel that them using the word 'shooting' is something mafia would say.

On the other hand, it also seems like they're bandwagoning but also trying to make it seem like they're not. If that makes any sense? Mainly because of the last sentence, "However I will keep my eye on him", makes it more subtle and less, 'I agree that we should lynch them because they're suspicious'.

The rest of their posts have been questions, which of course is fine being new and all. However, if they are town then it would be helpful for them to step up their game a little and post their own opinions, rather than stating the obvious and feeling the need to bandwagon/posting one liners.

Similar conclusion on Capella really, although Nikki is the one who stood out to me the most. I really am trying to keep in mind that they're new players, and it may not be the best idea to lynch first time players (not sure if this is Nikki 's first game), since we don't know their play style just yet.

These are just notes to keep in mind.

This is my first main mafia game. I am currently playing the mini mafia game: and then there were none and just finished playing newbie mafia. It may seem like I am banwaganing and asking questions but its my way to gather my thoughts. To be honest with this many players its a little hard for me to gather things together and understand each players and also the fact that I can't see what roles are being used in this game, but I am trying my best. I don't want to point out fingers because I am not 100% sure if they are scum or not once I am sure then i can put out my thoughts out.
 
Is there a specific time when people will start voting because I work about 1 hour before the timer ends?
 
Is there a specific time when people will start voting because I work about 1 hour before the timer ends?

Feel free to cast your vote right now if you know whom to vote for - It can be dangerous to get the ball rolling if you select a bad target since it's not uncommon for people to "go with the flow" and bandwagon along on the same target that you've brought in to the spotlight, though. Scum does this often, as well. So select your target carefully! If you want to go for No Lynch, you could vote right away, though I personally do not agree with that choice. I'd rather see the vote go on a player who is inactive/least likely person to contribute with valuable information later on, if you have no strong suspicions on who could be scum. (If you do, those should be first priority!) - Also, please do mention WHY you are voting for your target in the thread. Thanks!
 
We don't talk about that game.


Please refrain from future editing. Any future editing will result in a modkill and replacement.

You didn't need to repeat yourself. I noticed it and apologised. I already know the consequences.
 
Just in case Wi-Fi continues to be wonky for me, I'm voting for Aerious, Aerious has made three posts so far. One of them "jello scum" is unsatisfactory post quality, the other is about edits (when she edited her first post). In her third post she jumped to being suspicious of Sataric and Jello, Sataric for not claiming junior plastic and no reasoning for Jello. I find it common in games this size for there to be two millers. All three of her post came within half an hour of each other at around 11:30 yesterday, Pacific time, and she has recently been online, ending at 7:30 Pacific time. She has posted in a lot of other forum boards in different time frames as well
 
uh, Yui. That's some extremely faulty reasoning.

"It might be that they're scum trying get town to waste a lynch/inspection but, when they realized that nobody was going to agree, they chose to take them off their suspicions."

and it's gonna look pretty darn suspicious when we turn up miller when we're lynched. It kind of sounds like you're trying to get town to waste time.

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Also, for the record, since Sataric and I posted the exact same role pm word for word, grammar exactly the same. If he's scum, I'm scum. There's no way I could've guessed that.
 
uh, Yui. That's some extremely faulty reasoning.

"It might be that they're scum trying get town to waste a lynch/inspection but, when they realized that nobody was going to agree, they chose to take them off their suspicions."

and it's gonna look pretty darn suspicious when we turn up miller when we're lynched. It kind of sounds like you're trying to get town to waste time.

Uhh, I don't know how you read it but I never said I thought you and Sataric were lying, in fact, I believed that you were both telling the truth since I read your posts.
I really understand where you're coming from in this.

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OH! I see where you got confused. I was talking about Prin when I said that.
 
So Superpenguin has voted for Aerious and has not given a reason to as why he/she voted for them
 
Uhh, I don't know how you read it but I never said I thought you and Sataric were lying, in fact, I believed that you were both telling the truth since I read your posts.
I really understand where you're coming from in this.

It's the way you worded it. You were talking about Prin, but then it sounded like you were calling me suspicious and then you moved on to the wasting town part?

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time, rather. Whoops. But yeah, I misread it.
 
It's the way you worded it. You were talking about Prin, but then it sounded like you were calling me suspicious and then you moved on to the wasting town part?
I was talking about Prin and only Prin. Didn't mean to word it badly, but I was working on it for a long time and just wanted to get it done so I could go for a run/have a breather.

Anyway, I thought I made it clear earlier in the thread that I thought you were both clear.
 
Oh I though he who only did that in "and then there were none", but he does that in all mafia games?

No - he's usually quite the opposite. mOst games he's been in he is rather active and is even the starter of discussions.
 
This next one might make me sound like a bit of a hypocrite, however I've explained my reasoning already. Bringing up Prin next.


Why should we lynch Alice? If anyone out of the two who have claimed miller so far, Sataric should be the suspicious one. But no, I don't think Sataric comes across as suspicious so far at all. "I am willing to wait on the whole Jello thing", is something that was already said several times. Seems like they're trying to avoid disagreement, or make it look like they've posted their thoughts on the Jello thing.

And on the "Jello" thing, I was posting that I agreed. Avoiding disagreement? Please. This is mafia.

This post seems very scummy to me, and I think Sataric already brought this up. So I agree. It would be a waste of an inspection for the DT to check Alice/Sataric when they've gained most people's trust (especially Alice).

So you're allowed to post on what you agree, but I'm not?

However they did say this afterwards:



It might be that they're scum trying get town to waste a lynch/inspection but, when they realized that nobody was going to agree, they chose to take them off their suspicions.

What's the point of wasting time trying to tell people to agree? I had just skimmed through the thread, trying to make the deadline so I wouldnt be replaced. I re read everything, read the PM's they sent to oath, and everything, and reliazed how wsteful that would be. I just didnt want anyone to keep wondering, but since it appeared no one was, then I left it alone.
My responses in bold.

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In between "I reread everything" is supposed to be "Later, I reread everything"
 
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