Mafia Wrath of the Egyptian Gods - Kingmaker (Game Thread) Endgame

[toadsworthy]

Would it not be a faster win to kill all of the townies first? Help steer mislynches and then shoot who town doesn’t kill?

Depends on how many townies you think there are, trust me I've thought about fastest way to end game... and everything I've said is just the nature of being a survivor. Not like I can do much to influence one way or the other.

 

[Chris]

Jacob if you decide to lynch me today please let me know an hour or two beforehand so I can prepare my post to guide town based on what I know

Great minds. This is basically what I meant when I said I was working on something earlier and it might take a while. Writing up literally every tiny thought I have in case it's death day. And if not then I guess it's going in a will.

 

[EpicGamer12]

Great minds. This is basically what I meant when I said I was working on something earlier and it might take a while. Writing up literally every tiny thought I have in case it's death day. And if not then I guess it's going in a will.

I'm sure some of it could help town, perhaps you could edit the extra and post some of your main thoughts? That's kinda what I've been looking for from you for the entire game.

 

[Jacob]

You'll all probably hours before... I explained during night that I have plans Friday night...

If I don't have a lynch candidate by 6PM est tomorrow, could be a little trouble.

Time to start isolating!

 

[Heyden]

Tina Tom Trundle... my fellow T's, I won't let Jacob touch you, pinky promise.

But yes Jacob pls don't hammer early we still have 28 hours.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Actually maybe not Tom

 

[Chris]

I'm sure some of it could help town, perhaps you could edit the extra and post some of your main thoughts? That's kinda what I've been looking for from you for the entire game.

I'm just gonna C&P what I have so far as it's taking me a while and I've only gotten through the first hundred posts. Censored one or two things I'm reluctant to share rn.

Non-existant teams
Jacob/Dolby/Waffles - none of these three are involved with one another.
Toads/Waffles


Heyden - 1
#25 - ?Well it eliminates the possibility of Jacob and Dolby being scum already imo?
Heyden cannot be paired with Jacob or Dolby. Not understanding how this works implies that he is definitely town.

Byngo
#7. - ?hmm top tier bias? - implies unhappy with choice of Dolby?
#21 - ?if im understanding, king was chosen by rng today? ? - [censored]

Trundle
#10 - Happy with Dolby as King.
[censoring the rest of this for now]

Jacob
#11 - ?Is dolby being king result of a rng? - why does he need to ask this?
#16 - ?Ok so I know I've been reprimanded last game for using host actions to determine players' roles (by dolby because I used that in my scum case against him), but i think its probably accurate to assume dolby is town for now ? - safe to assume Jacob x Dolby are not a team.
#99 - believed Toads and Waffles were potentially trying to distract/mislead King Dolby. Likely would not have made this comment if teamed with either of them at such an early point in game.

Tom
#15 - out of character. Pseudo-helpful.
#29 - ?How does it clear both Jacob and Dolby? Dolby was handpicked by somebody, there?s still the potential for him to flip scum.? - trying to be helpful or deflecting? The fact he asked a question first is concerning instead of going straight into an explanation on how it does not clear them. Perhaps doubt is try separate himself from Dolby. = Possible pair in Tom x Dolby?

Dolby
#33 - ?Kinda have a low-level townlean on Jacob based on him being more engaged with the thread. Don't really see that from him as maf (or really as town, but to a somewhat lesser degree than as maf)? - the fast comment on Jacob implies he and Dolby aren?t teamed. Also ties in with Jacob post #16.
#102 - ?Townleans on Jacob, Heyden, Glow?. Unlikely teamed with Jacob. Glow is town. Unlikely Heyden too?

Toadsworthy
#56 - "Was my intention to be trusted?? Posted while drinking. Lines up with his later role claim as a successful survivor role often relies on laying low enough to not be mafia killed. Also could apply ofc to SK or other third party roles.
#103 - odd case on Evan.

ITYW
#68 - ?I'm new to this if you are a kingmaker can you king yourself?? - implies Dolby Kinged himself.
#70 - follow-up post confirms this, saying still thinks Dolby is town is trustworthy anyway. Def not teamed together.

 

[Biancasbotique]

Ya I'm gonna isolate them and explain what I can, not this second though. I think the best thing for me to do as King is isolate everyone which will kinda be a rough time but whatever



One of my main hookups about bianca is her refusal to explain why she scum reads me. I tried asking her and she kinda dodged.

The reason why you are active (and you said this factually) is if you become kingmaker. Otherwise, you are inactive. I sus you when you have inactivity. This goes back to BOTW where I sus you for being inactive and suddenly you appear...

 

[toadsworthy]

toads is totally scummy, but i'm having a hard time doing anything with him bc he's a waste of a lynch and all we can hope is that he either A.) helps town win. or B.) pray maf kills him off before he decides to switch sides. i think he's scummy for the way he pointed out that if town didnt go along w/ him he's just gonna flip sides and help maf instead but honestly what can we even do about it. i don't honestly think anyone with a brain would king him, so lets hope it just stays that way. on a side note can we mute him from poem writing.


- - - Post Merge - - -

sorry id dint snip from ur post, im an idiot.

You can't stop my artistic creativity

 

[Dolby]

Writing this on a dying phone, so rushed

Satisfied with Jacob today, but I honestly don’t understand the sus that he has on Trundle. Imo, if there’s scum in top tier players, it’s probably Tom and maybe Kat. That being said, I want Tom’s reads, he’s been leaving little comments throughout the day, but honestly, they’ve been less than helpful in determining his thoughts or alignments. I feel like I’m being unnecessarily paranoid about Heyden, as I still don’t have an idea on who’d shoot him, but w/e.
I feel like Bianca is scum, and Tom as well. Going back on what I said earlier, I don’t view Panda as being compatible with those to. Based on interactions I kinda feel like Sensai is town, but there’s probably maf in those who I had on my town list in my will. Don’t understand why someone (forgot who) is TRing Kermit

 

[EpicGamer12]

Writing this on a dying phone, so rushed

Satisfied with Jacob today, but I honestly don’t understand the sus that he has on Trundle. Imo, if there’s scum in top tier players, it’s probably Tom and maybe Kat. That being said, I want Tom’s reads, he’s been leaving little comments throughout the day, but honestly, they’ve been less than helpful in determining his thoughts or alignments. I feel like I’m being unnecessarily paranoid about Heyden, as I still don’t have an idea on who’d shoot him, but w/e.
I feel like Bianca is scum, and Tom as well. Going back on what I said earlier, I don’t view Panda as being compatible with those to. Based on interactions I kinda feel like Sensai is town, but there’s probably maf in those who I had on my town list in my will. Don’t understand why someone (forgot who) is TRing Kermit

If you're town like I think you are I entirely agree. I'm super paranoid about Kat atm

 

[Heyden]

Don't have any data left so hoping my VPN works with school wifi, otherwise I won't be on for 8 hours.

Anyhow, yes I'd really like reads from Kat and Tom.

 

[Chris]

Tom/Kat/Kermit for me.

Cleb replacing out, followed by Kermit jumping in then also wanting to replace, bothers me. Reminds me of Curry replacing glow in Caxnival and then going inactive.

 

[toadsworthy]

Anyone else found it weird that glow got killed n1 too btw? Like I know she's god tier, but I think she was scum read by quite a few people. And Dolby or Kat would've made more sense as god tier shots.

 

[Jacob]

I actually have a request for you guys...

Looking at the playerlists posts counts, its gonna be increasingly difficult to isolate everyone. Some people have 90+ posts. Can I get a list of who you guys want isolated first?

So far its been a point to post my reads on: F11, Kat, Tom, Kermit

 

[Trent the Paladin]

I will post reads later.

Where is SensaiGallade though and why are they continuing to not contribute though

 

[EpicGamer12]

Tom/Kat/Kermit for me.

Cleb replacing out, followed by Kermit jumping in then also wanting to replace, bothers me. Reminds me of Curry replacing glow in Caxnival and then going inactive.

If even one of those is scum I'm going to flip my read on you. And I think Tom would actually be a good lynch today.

 

[KermitTea]

shucks but I'm not scum I'm kinda important this game tho so rip

 

[Trent the Paladin]

If even one of those is scum I'm going to flip my read on you. And I think Tom would actually be a good lynch today.

If y’all want to lynch me go for it it’s cool. Just give me the curtesy heads up before ya do

 

[KermitTea]

sigh ima advocate for why I shouldn't be lynched
1. I'm town
2. I will most likely get replaced / modkilled so in the end y'all will see what I am anyway
3. Lynching me doesn't really provide any useful info as i haven't been talking, idk how active Cleb was, and I think not many other ppl have said stuff about me
4. Believe it or not I'm trying my best to make time and whenever I pop in I'll try to contribute but no promises bcuz I started a new job on top of schoolwork so yeah

and for those of u that wondered why I replaced I figured I'd be a nice soul and try and keep the game going but I forgot my job starts this week so yeah

 

[cornimer]

I messed up the quoting format but Kat asked me this:
"god I relate with this on a spiritual level LOL. For what it's worth, I actually have the same issues w/ confrontation irl, but what helps me get past it in mafia is that there's no chance of offending someone here. Saying someone is scummy isn't a personal slam against them, and if they DO get offended, then it's bad on them because this is an environment where they're supposed to be getting questioned. Idk if that helps but it's something that helps me

Some thoughts/questions regarding your reads though:
- For f11, I disagree. If someone sounds like 3rd party, then I think that should be a scum lean since 3rd parties inherently only care about themselves more than anything else. I TR f11 personally but I find that logic a lil off.
- For me, you mentioned I'm null due to my experience. Why is Dolby/Tina a townlean/town respectively, considering their experience?
- What are your thoughts on Panda's and Tom's interactions?"

1. Thanks for the advice, that's honestly helpful and I'll try to keep that in mind
2. You make a good point about f11. My gut still says town but I will keep an eye on them
3. Dolby is a townlean because I played with him last game and he was maf and I think he is acting differently this game (but I still sliiightly distrust him). Tina I am getting good town vibes from her posts based on how deeply she is looking into things and her tone. But I haven't gotten any particular vibes from you so you are null.
4. Honestly looking back on Panda and Tom, it looks like an attempted pocket that failed so he decided to suss her instead.