Bell Tree Direct - 12.21.2014
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They could revamp the lottery system to give out collectibles. I don't know if that's actually possible.
As I said before though, it's a bell sink.
I don't see how these "features" really are relevant to the topic at hand. Cycling threads, non-stop shop threads, selling non-AC/Nintendo items, what exactly is your point with these?
Oh quit *****ing about it. Like seriously, it's dumb, yes, but stop whining. I doubt you're going to change anything with unconstructive suggestions that have no possibility of actually being implemented.
Hey, I hear the concerns here. Jeremy will probably pop by tomorrow to explain his reasons for this. Although it isn't happening for a while, so who knows what will happen between now and then. Perhaps you can convince him otherwise. 
Cadbberry
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Guys the pay to be invisible I find is a great idea. Why do you need to hide when your online? You don't want people to know that you are on a forum then don't be on it. For mods it makes sense since they need to lurk to catch people doing bad things but why do avg. people who are just posting around. I seriously don't get why people need to hide but if you want to then pay the price, that simple
wat
sure im not forced to use tbt, but that argument swings both ways. if i see a decision i disagree with, on a forum ive invested nearly 2 years of time in, im gonna voice my concerns.
how do mods need to lurk to catch ppl doing bad things? this is a forum, it has a record of everything u post, it doesnt matter if a mod was looking at the thread ur ****posting in at the time. if its actionable they will prosecute it anyway.
ppl hide for a myriad of reasons. maybe they r a trader and dont like being pressured to respond to pms. or maybe they dont want ppl to see when theyre online at all. or wat threads they r browsing.
Cadbberry
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mods do what they do and if lurking is their way then that is what they do,I know many mods on other sites that catch people doing things by being in invis mode so why do players need it. I know how it is when you dont want to be pmed but are you just putting off the inevitable. I just try to rationalize the reason why but I dont get it.
let me change a word in ur post so that u might understand
theres a logical disconnect here. it makes absolutely no sense. its like saying moderators like pie, so why do players like pie.
PrayingMantis10
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I admit I went to invisible mode when I began playing Mafia and I have kept the invisibility on... but that's to avoid other members' disappointment. I am on this site a lot but a good chunk of that time I am awk. I sell AC items and I don't want players to have the false hope that I am going to be able to deliver said items because my green light is glowing. I know I am frustrated when I post on a thread with a green light glowing only to find out later that they had actually gone offline and it was just the 15 minute lag glow.
Mods and Admins can see people on invisible.
Cadbberry
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I know but I mean like, they can lurk on invis and it helps them
Th being on invisible wouldn't be good, it'd seem you're on a forum with mods or admins never on.
Cadbberry
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Well I mean many are in ivis, again I don't really mind. It doesn't bother me, it bothers me when people on invis never reply to my PMs. Not that I am pressuring but half the time I send a PM to them it just never gets responded to. Or when I just am looking see who is online, I can't find out if the person I am looking for is there, like when we have an agreed getting online for a trade time and I can't tell if they are online or not even on the DS, I don't know if they added me. I just don't like invis unless it is for the better of everyone and what has been shown to me is that it isn't. Sorry if you all love it but I don't feel it is needed at all.
It's an incredibly stupid and counterproductive idea. Sure there are users who use/activate it for no apparent reason, but there's also those that use it to hide from aggressive or harassing users. Sure posting while invisible is kind of a dead giveaway that hey, they're online probably, but they're trying to remain active and communicating with others. Why should they have to pay bells to hide from somebody as a line of defense?
What's the big point there? Admins, mods and users can all use invisible. Admins and mods will probably not have to pay to use the feature, plus they can see all the online invisible users. Users will have to pay and cannot see other invisible users.
BlooBelle
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I just like staying on invis so I can lurk without getting pm'd about something. A lot of the time I just go on and don't post, and while I may have no good reason to be on invisible that doesn't mean others don't.
Paying for a feature that's available on most other forums is just stupid imo.
Paying for a feature that's available on most other forums is just stupid imo.
Silversea
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I don't use invisible mode but I do find paying for it unusual. Some people appreciate being anonymous and it is fair enough. But there must have been a significant reason(s) for this step needing to be taken, though I can't imagine what.
No, it's not a significant reason. It's 1) to give more use to bells and 2) to increase the active users list since a lot of people just use it to use it. It's not significant, but neither is paying a small amount of bells for the feature, which we already do for inbox space, etc. If it's such a big deal, we'll reconsider, but I don't see how it's any different than other features we charge bells for except for the fact that it started as free.
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