Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!

@iLoveYou, Hey, I really think that you should reread some recent games to see how we work now. This will be helpful to us and you throughout the rest of this game.

This is a poor way of playing the game. The mechanics of mafia don't change over time, I'm not defending her method but you telling her to blend in with how current players think shields her actual thoughts.

Go against what she is saying with reasons why it won't work instead, and let her express her thought process in her replies. We don't want anyone holding back what they want to say especially in a game with like 25 players
 
I think punchy is town hes trying to hard to cover that fact up...unless thats his plan all along.

Lol well good job punchy it's working on the hoard of newbies.... nothing punchy has done is alignment indicative. Don't read into things this early especially when someone is that eager to have it be known
 
This is a poor way of playing the game. The mechanics of mafia don't change over time, I'm not defending her method but you telling her to blend in with how current players think shields her actual thoughts.

Go against what she is saying with reasons why it won't work instead, and let her express her thought process in her replies. We don't want anyone holding back what they want to say especially in a game with like 25 players
I'm not saying that, it's just the fact that she hasn't read any previous games is what made me say that. She didn't think that RQs were a good idea. It's just the fact that she hasn't played mafia in a long time, and we all have developed new strategies that would be helpful, the way scum behave could have totally changed from that time too.

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Lol well good job punchy it's working on the hoard of newbies.... nothing punchy has done is alignment indicative. Don't read into things this early especially when someone is that eager to have it be known

Well if nothing that I've done is alignment indictative, then why are you tunneling me so hard?
 
I'm not saying that, it's just the fact that she hasn't read any previous games is what made me say that. She didn't think that RQs were a good idea. It's just the fact that she hasn't played mafia in a long time, and we all have developed new strategies that would be helpful, the way scum behave could have totally changed from that time too.

It doesn't matter how long its been since she's played, she knows how to play
The way the game works hasn't changed. I'd rather she go against doing RQS and telling us why she doesn't want to rather than just doing them
 
Did I ever say you were scum? Or vote you? No. I'm not tunneling you. I'm trying to keep you in check because the way you are playing is annoying af and gonna do more bad than good. If you are town, chill out, don't post all over the place, and stop trying to be townie than thou, because it looks scummy.
 
Being a player at the start feels kind of weird for me. I mean... For my first mafia game I started off as a replacement for someone.

I'm not entirely sure how much the RQS for this going to help, but I don't mind answering the questions provided.

1. What is your timezone? PST (Pacific Standard Time.

2. How active will you be this game? As active as I can be.

3. Preferred pronoun? She/Her

4. Do you prefer being town or being mafia? This isn't a question that I can question. The only role that I have ever played in mafia was a vanilla townie. I remembered that the only thing I had in the game that played was my voice.

5. How do you handle pressure? That would depend on the kind of pressure. Though... I usually just listen to music that I like to deal with it. Or sometimes talk to someone trust like a really good friend.

6. Which player(s) in this game can you read the best? Probably nobody.

7. Which player(s) in this game can best read you? Maybe Tom? Basing this from what he put me on his reads during my first mafia game.

8. How many games have you played? Just 1.

9. Who would you fearkill N1? I'm not sure. I don't have anyone in mind.

10. Will Ness answer this RQS? I don't know if he would or not.
 
Punchy - Possible mafia
Dolby - Town
Ghostkid - Probably town

Wait why is Dolby "Town" for you yet GhostKid is "probably Town" ? To me that just looks like you're confirming Dolby right off the bat while the nub gets "probably Town". Let's not rule out Dokby that quickly. Just as you wouldn't anyone else.

Also Punchy is distracting. Why would you jump on a player like him and label him as "possible mafia". Although I am definitely not ruling him out. I just mean he seems too much like an easy target right now.

These were just the first questions that came to my mind from your post Trundle. The rest I can't comment on yet because I feel they haven't posted enough.
 
99 out of 100 times speculating TP does absolutely nothing. Fireninja did the same bs in Mystic Messenger and was softing jester D1, completely derailing the thread. Just ignore his **** tbh.

It's not softing if you hardclaim.

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Also, last post for the evening probably.
 
Trust me I'm not ruling out Dolby... I've actually got an eye on him for sure.

I'm done with punchy at this point, I think I've gotten what I want out of him
 
Im just gonna watch for a little bit seeing what needs to be seen.
 
Dolby math skills are on point (mafia ratio is 1:5 i think and 5:25 is 20%). Anyways, It's late and I will rather wait till after school tomorrow before coming up with a logical mafia reads (I usually go into detail about who I think is mafia instead of everyone which I say is either null, lean, or town) like I did last time about everyone.

I also don't think Punchy is mafia. The whole ness thing was obviously a joke plus last game he was acting super suspicious last game and the majority voted him off. He was town during that game! These are probably crappy claims since I don't have much to work with so I'm going to wait tommorow sometime after school, like I said. (Punchy is null)

I'm going to go pretty myself up and go to bed.
 
Ive been refreshing alot...its time i call it a night. Ill be back
 
Is that ratio apply for mafia (party game)? Or only TBT mafia? Just want to be sure.
 
alright, ive read through everything now. idk if ive properly processed or analyised it yet (im kinda tired rn) but thatll come later

im kinda weary of sussing punchy rn, especially after the hell i caused for it last game. it feels like his town meta is just to post random crap without much worth so its kinda hard to get a read off of. the only thing im kinda worried about rn is how easily toads reaction test or we was accepted, i feel like toad would know that if he pushed punchys buttons enough he could probably get some material he could use later to paint him as scum if he was maf. its just a crackpot theory atm but i guess its smth to call back to if toad does some other questionable stuff.

other than that noonces done anything obviously scummy yet, just a few weird things like toms kinda memey posts and fireninjas weird omgus in defense of ness thing, but idk their meta yet so that could be normal. gotta look over old games when im free, theres so many new people and vets i havent played with b4

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honestly idk if the mafia : town ratio is gonna be that useful this game, considering the high amount of players and the experimental nature of the setup the teams and tps setup could be smth really wacky for all we know, its best to wait for the night kills to make any assumptions about this kind of thing imo

idk maybe someone with more experience than me has a better idea of what it could be

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also just wanna say im really excited to see this level of analysis and detail on d1, hopefully i survive a while so i can pick up some tips
 
Fireninja's whole thing with Punchy doesn't make any sense to me at all when it's clear as day that he is doing "lmao i'mma vote ness i'm funny xD" thing, which honestly shouldn't be alignment indicative to me. No clue what to make of it right now.

Anyway I wanted to point something out that I feel like people glossed over, which it isn't necessarily very telling, but the wording is weird:

Mog said:
omg why u voting punchy then? is this one of those moments where u vote first so everyone town reads u bc i swear that happens so often

I find this strange because it makes next to no sense to be asking this from a town perspective. Like, what exactly do you expect him to say, "Yes I'm rando voting punchy early so that it looks like i'm town"? It feels fillery, it's out of place if anyone understands what I mean.

Personally, I have always been an advocate for lynching players that tend to usually make it to the end of these games. Why ? Because they are, more often than not, considered not threatening to mafia. If you aren't threatening to mafia, then you aren't helping Town. Considering this is our most "hit or miss" lynch, I'd rather take a chance on someone who won't help the progression of the game, especially when we are relying on them at the end.

Hi, I like your flair, but I disagree. Unhelpful players are going to be unhelpful, but we shouldn't kill people off just for the sake of that. Its part of the reason why I always allow WotC in my games yet nobody ever uses, people wonder why "ugh this player is so annoying" when nobody uses the way to keep them out of games in the first place. I personally prioritize information over being rid of nuisances, but should one of the "deadweight" players appear scummy to me then I will determine whether I want to see them lynched.

Theres a mafia chat?

Quick question, do you know what platform (website) is used for the mafia chat?

omk I'm not being active because I'm scum, I'm being active because I genuinely want to help.

:thinking: *cue big bang theory laughing track*

Also instead of continuing to meme I’m really feeling the fire that Kayla is spittin, but also as someone who always get shot down for wanting to no lynch I know that’s a train not worth ridin.

So basically, you're saying that you agree with the prospect of killing off dead weights (as iLoveYou as stated), yet you don't want to fully take her side on it.

Why do I get the feeling that Dolby might be trying to get on my good side?

*Cues Seinfeld Music* kid if you're going to post stuff like this why can't you atleast give half of a reason why

Honestly I'm pretty sure you're not town. Just like really? This is either a bad townplay, a bad scumplay, or an obvious Jester play.

"Pretty sure you're not town" this is a pretty big statement given we're 4 hours into the game.

99 out of 100 times speculating TP does absolutely nothing. Fireninja did the same bs in Mystic Messenger and was softing jester D1, completely derailing the thread. Just ignore his **** tbh.

While I agree to the prospect of speculating him as third is useless, I don't think we can excuse him solely off of "he does this all the time just ignore him". Nevertheless I kinda like this post, simply because it's not that bad of a point in it of itself.

I'm not arguing that weaker players are more likely to be mafia. I'm arguing that ideally mafia want useless players hanging around the end of the game. If stronger players are going to get killed at night plus deadweights are slipping by, then what's left for Town ? Your goal of lynching scum on Day One seems too unrealistic to me based on the games I have personally played.

We have the roles like doc and veteran for a reason you know, the good players usually live for atleast some amount of time before all of them are completely killed off. While an easy scum strategy is to kill off the better players to leave the sheep, don't you think that it's kinda a poor idea to be wasting our lynch on newbie players considering that in a game this size we're more than likely to have a higher mafia count, possibly with a hostile third party? It just seems redundant to take out 1 newbie player when mafia/potential third party roles possess the capability of killing 2-4 of the good players at night.

I'm just actively trying to help town, while meanwhile you're tunneling me for no valid reason

Fireninja...literally...is voting you....for no reason.......yet.........you're saying toadsworthy is tunneling you.................

I assumed you were going to say that, but here is my "D1 first few hours" reads:

Tom - Mafia
toads - Posting seems weird but it always does and I got to observe his scum style quite closely in my game. I'm thinking town (even though his post ("*obligatory post about stupidly early read*") is the reason I mentioned the red flags.
Punchy - Possible mafia
Dolby - Town
Ghostkid - Probably town

Can you please elaborate more on these, particularly interested in the Tom read. Since you think him and Punchy are scummy, Trundle, do you believe that they are capable of being a team?

I like Trundles reads, and largely agree with them (except on how Ghost/Punchy relate to each other), and they actually did make me think that ILoveYou was town. ILoveYou does genuinely believe that lynching inactives is the best move, and honestly, as scum, I feel that she would accept the new meta rather than try to argue away from it to lynching inactives. Basically, I feel that her arguing comes from a town place and that she’d be willing to accept the change as scum

Uhhhhh what, Trundle said practically nothing in detail about his reads other than the Toads read. Why do you agree with reads that have no backbone?

thats basically it i'm caught up now and going to bed
 
Ness which one of your reads is the strongest of those?

and thoughts on me, you missed me

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also whats the point of all your stuff on punchy? you pointed out how much of an idiot he is, but idk what your stance is on him
 
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