If bad people and narrow-minded people do the same thing, then what's the difference? Some of the most homophobic and transphobic people I've met were just people who had good intentions. Intention matters very little when the things you say/do still hurt people.
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If bad people and narrow-minded people do the same thing, then what's the difference? Some of the most homophobic and transphobic people I've met were just people who had good intentions. Intention matters very little when the things you say/do still hurt people.
visibleghost
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Unpopular opinion : I feel like people that dont agree with homosexuality and etc shouldnt be put down. Also before i get berated for being homophobic, Im gay.
Edit : I also feel like lgbt people that put down homophobes are just as ignorant as the homophobes themselves.
that is indeed an unpopular opinion. I think that if someone cannot respect other people for who they are they are not worth my positive attention. I don't think someone has to know everything about being hbtq+, I don't expect anyone to be a hundred percent not problematic. But if they cannot respect people as in literally just not fight against their rights, beat them up, call them slurs or in any other way restrict their lives or try to hurt them.
Hbtq+ people who do not accept that people hate them aren't just as ignorant, that is just ridiculous to say. It's not ignorant to not accept being hated and discriminated against.
visibleghost
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so anyway i found this lesbian/bi/wlw dating app but its 18+ only and imcoz i wanna find cute gay girls in highschool to date
haha good luck finding someone to date B)
You're welcome!
I can definitely relate a lot to what you said. I'm bisexual myself and I've basically come out to all people that are somewhat close to me, including my mother. I thought I could trust her with it but she didn't take it well and has been acting weird about it ever since I told her (which was last year by the way). I regret telling her, so yeah. At least, I don't live at home anymore, so she can't confront me with it all that much. My advice for you is, even though it is hard, I'd keep it to myself at least until you're independent and don't live at home anymore, especially since your dad has already said such things. If you have some friends (I mean in real life) that you feel safe to come out to, then start with them. I would keep the family out of this until the end. At least you have some supportive friends online! That's always good. If you like to talk more about it, feel free to PM me anytime!
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
Agree? It's more of intolerance, sexuality isn't an opinion, it's a trait. It would be like saying a don't agree with a certain race, it's not a disagreement it's just not liking that race. You may like the fact someone is LGBT but you need to accept it because no matter what you think, that person is still LGBT. It's easier just to accept them than to try fighting over something you can't change.
And by definition, a Homophobe is:
Homophobe:a person who hates or is afraid of homosexuals or treats them badly.
Doesn't seem to different than a racist. Would you say racist are good people?
cornimer
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I know this wasn't directed at me, but I just wanted to say that I understand how you feel. You said that your dad would be "disappointed" if you came out as "not straight"; my mom basically said the same thing. What happened was we saw a family on TV with two gay sons, and my mom said "Wow, the parents must be so disappointed. Now they won't have get any grandchildren". She's not "against" LGBTQ people, but I know this means that she would be disappointed too if her children were "not straight". And it kind of hurt me when she said this because (makes sure nobody around me is looking) I'm ace so I might not ever have children, and she'll probably disappointed in me. And I want to think that she'd be accepting if I told her but I don't know so now I probably won't tell her. ;w;
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Celestefey
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That really sucks. I think there is a lot of pressure that parents put on their children to have children themselves one day. It's a little bit selfish if you ask me. It's not the parent who will have to deal with another child, after all. It'll be you, ultimately, if you choose to have a child. They'll only see the nice side of their grandchild and won't have to deal with all of the trouble and hassle that comes with having a child again. And secondly, it's not their place to decide, after all! It's your life and you're in control of it, so you live it the way you want to. There is nothing wrong with choosing not to have children, there is nothing wrong with being ace. I'm sorry you've had to go through that too. I would hope though if you ever did tell your mum that you were ace that she would be accepting of you and your life choices. Just give it time and thought. I would suggest if she says things like that again to try and ask her why she thinks that, or ask what's wrong in not having children? Or you could say something like "having children shouldn't be your main aim in life, you should focus on travelling or fulfilling your life's dreams", at least that way you're sort of hinting towards her you're not interested without explicitly saying it.
It's not fun just constantly feeling like you will be a disappointment to your parents, but seriously, you aren't at all. What your parents think is not the be all or end all, in the end. That's what you have to try and remember, and I do try and tell myself that.
LovelyLavender
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What about children? Are they bad people just because they don't understand the situation or/and don't consider other people's feelings? Intentions matters probably the most.
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visibleghost
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uneducated people who are ignorant and realise that they're wrong when someone educates them aren't supe bad
but if it's "just my opinion!!! gay ppl suck!!!!!!!!!!!!" that'd ****ed up and wrong
LovelyLavender
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*sigh* The English language is too vast and complicated for me to express my point better.
Let's see.....ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
In a way, some people in this thread are practicing a form of bigotry.
Let's see.....ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
In a way, some people in this thread are practicing a form of bigotry.
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Intention doesn't matter. Here's an example. I break your leg, but I intended it to be a funny joke. You get upset because I broke your leg, but I didn't mean to upset you. I just wanted to break your leg. Does that make me a bad person or does it make me someone who is just trying to help.
LovelyLavender
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That is considered bad intention though. How is breaking someone's leg a funny joke?
It's not. That's the point. Congratulations. How is a homophobe's actions based in good intentions when all it does it hurt people?
LovelyLavender
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No, it was a bad intention in the first place. Your example was how sociopathic people behave.
LovelyLavender
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*shrugs*
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Officer Berri
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"Hot gay girls" aren't there for your pleasure.
Jesus. I hate that. My apologies if you're joking, but this really gets under my skin as I'm sure my girlfriend and I wouldn't get away with being in a lesbian relationship because I'm not hot. Ew a fat chick lol she must be one of those lesbians who are super feminist and hate all men because one made her angry. lol
"I hate homosexual relationships they're just wrong. *looks at lesbian porn*" A pretty good example of certain men who only view women as there for their pleasure.
Man I've been up for 2 hours and already today Berri's had to put on her feminist/lgbtqa hat and keep it on. @_@ C'mon guys, why.
Jesus. I hate that. My apologies if you're joking, but this really gets under my skin as I'm sure my girlfriend and I wouldn't get away with being in a lesbian relationship because I'm not hot. Ew a fat chick lol she must be one of those lesbians who are super feminist and hate all men because one made her angry. lol
"I hate homosexual relationships they're just wrong. *looks at lesbian porn*" A pretty good example of certain men who only view women as there for their pleasure.
Man I've been up for 2 hours and already today Berri's had to put on her feminist/lgbtqa hat and keep it on. @_@ C'mon guys, why.
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that was a joke aha.
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