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lmao. well isn't this gonna get interesting.

to be completely honest, i actually appreciate some controversy from time to time, as long as it doesn't get out of hand. lets me know where people stand. can be illuminating.

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I mean, I would totally do it for my partner if they asked but I would never WANT to do it for the sake of doing it. I just want to please them.
this just happens to describe my attitude towards sex in general pretty well! i have no interest in sex for its own sake, but i'm not opposed to the idea of pleasing a partner if i loved them. but if they had strong sexual needs, chances are we wouldn't be very compatible.

orientations can be very complex and fluid, and i assume a lot of people would reconsider theirs if they learned more about the subject. :')
 
"Hot gay girls" aren't there for your pleasure.

Jesus. I hate that. My apologies if you're joking, but this really gets under my skin as I'm sure my girlfriend and I wouldn't get away with being in a lesbian relationship because I'm not hot. Ew a fat chick lol she must be one of those lesbians who are super feminist and hate all men because one made her angry. lol

"I hate homosexual relationships they're just wrong. *looks at lesbian porn*" A pretty good example of certain men who only view women as there for their pleasure.

Man I've been up for 2 hours and already today Berri's had to put on her feminist/lgbtqa hat and keep it on. @_@ C'mon guys, why.

im gay

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What's so big about gays?

i know right
 
I haven't been on tbt for a while now. I go through patches where I don't come on tbt for ages but whenever I come back, I'm always pleased to see that this thread is still going. :)
 
This^ I usually told any potential boyfriends at some point that I was pansexual, and if their response was "so you'be be into threesomes?" then I ran the other way ASAP.

Oh god, yeah, I'm bi and I'm expecting the threesome line any day now. I've already been told that I need to make up my mind, and that I'm "straight but I just have a fetish" by someone who then told me he was gay. I was thinking, do you not understand how that feels lmao why would you say it to me?
 
^Oh man, Im sorry that happened to you. I know how that feels. Actually, I think we bi/pan people get more hate from the gay community than from straight people which is kinda ironic.
 
^Oh man, Im sorry that happened to you. I know how that feels. Actually, I think we bi/pan people get more hate from the gay community than from straight people which is kinda ironic.

I hate how that is. I feel like they feel we are "imposters" or something. Especially if you have an opposite gender partner, like good luck not getting hate.
 
I'm a bit confused right now because I realised I may be asexual? Like I've never thought about it really but I absolutely never think about sex, touch myself or anything, I'm almost 18 now so I'm not a "late bloomer" or something. Even if it crosses my mind I'm just like "ya ok cool no ty". I have a boyfriend and I don't mind doing it for him (which is why that hasn't crossed my mind but seeing you guys post similar things here I'm a bit confused ok) but I'm never the one to start it, ever. Also when I call someone "sexy" and "hot" I actually mean more like "cute". I'm so confused and hnrrghhh
/endofrant
 
^Oh man, Im sorry that happened to you. I know how that feels. Actually, I think we bi/pan people get more hate from the gay community than from straight people which is kinda ironic.

bi/pan people dont get more hate from the gay community

i really dont like people pushing this narrative that gay men and lesbians hate bi/pan ppl more than straight people do. its not helping anyone and its certainly not true. there is a lot of intracommunity conflict but in the end its horizontal oppressive struggle. lesbians and gay men dont hate bi/pans more than straights do and vice versa
 
bi/pan people dont get more hate from the gay community

i really dont like people pushing this narrative that gay men and lesbians hate bi/pan ppl more than straight people do. its not helping anyone and its certainly not true. there is a lot of intracommunity conflict but in the end its horizontal oppressive struggle. lesbians and gay men dont hate bi/pans more than straights do and vice versa

Lol I don't see hate for bi/pan people,
 
bi/pan people dont get more hate from the gay community

i really dont like people pushing this narrative that gay men and lesbians hate bi/pan ppl more than straight people do. its not helping anyone and its certainly not true. there is a lot of intracommunity conflict but in the end its horizontal oppressive struggle. lesbians and gay men dont hate bi/pans more than straights do and vice versa

Well, I can only speak from my experience and I have definitely gotten more hateful comments from gay people (mainly lesbians) for being bi than from straight people. Many lesbians don't like bi girls.
 
Pansexual and proud as heck. I love being part of the LGBT+ community (most of the time!) especially on Twitter.
 
There's a thing called bi-erasure
So I'm pretty sure there's a type of hate going around bi/pan people
Not oh who hates more but it exist(can't erase that)


And I wish I can be loud and proud being in the lgbat community but nah
It's like a brick wall separation
 
If you say you identify as a penguin, I'm going to be okay with that, whether I think it's ridiculous or not.

That's how I feel about all this bisexual hate stuff. I don't think people should judge other people for what they choose to identify as.
 
I'm a little late but lemme do a quick Biphobia 101 lesson to describe it as best as possible for those who don't know. There are many reasons why it exists and why bisexuals are hated, so I'll just organize them into a list by types and categories to avoid a wall of text.

Bear in mind that every "type of biphobia" can overlap and intermingle with other ones.

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CATEGORY A - "It's an act of deception/just pretending":

TYPE A1: This subscribes to the idea that bisexuals are pretending to be...well bisexual, because they want to stick out more. In other words, they want to be a "special snowflake" or want to be treated differently from the rest of the people around them in some way.
TYPE A2: This idea argues that gay people pretend to be bisexual because they are still in the closet. However, once they come to terms with their sexuality, they will "drop their shield" and finally come out. As a result, some people believe that bisexuals are actually just gay and that's it.
TYPE A3: This idea argues that someone pretends to be bisexual in order to trick someone else and get into their pants. And if questioned about it, that person will use "I'm bisexual" as an excuse to avoid stigma. So it's used as an outright act of deception. Bear in mind that A3 often overlaps with A1, except unlike A1, this belief is much more malicious in nature than sympathetic.

CATEGORY B - "Bisexuals are promiscuous":

TYPE B1: This idea believes in that bisexuals like having multiple partners, which is a pretty big stereotype. That by itself pisses off a lot of strict monogamists, which is another reason why bisexuals are actively hated.
TYPE B2: This idea also believes in the aforementioned stereotype. However, the hate is more out of fear that a bisexual will cheat on their loved ones and you wouldn't know who since their sexuality includes more than one gender. Bear in mind that the people who use this argument are usually the kind of people who feel the need to compete for their lover's attention, or feel insecure when a person of an opposite sex comes near their lover (or same sex if we're talking about a same-sex couple).

CATEGORY C - "Bisexuals are confused":

TYPE C1: We all heard the "you are going through a phase" shtick, regardless if you're gay, bi, asexual, trans, pansexual, etc. However, this is kind of harmful because it leads to the belief that a bisexual person is "just confused", and most people don't want to date a person that's unsure of their sexuality because of the high risk of the person not truly loving them back. And of course, that puts a foul taste in some mouths, which is another reason why bisexuals are distrusted and hated.
TYPE C2: Some people genuinely believe that it's impossible to be attracted to more than one gender. They just flat out don't believe it. This is in category C because I have no where else to put it. :V

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Can't think of any other reasons on why bisexuals are hated. In regards to pansexuals, pretty much all of the above also applies. But it's also worthy to note that "pansexual" is a recently new term, so not a lot of people know about it yet, which can also lead to more erasure and a little hate.
bi/pan people dont get more hate from the gay community

i really dont like people pushing this narrative that gay men and lesbians hate bi/pan ppl more than straight people do. its not helping anyone and its certainly not true. there is a lot of intracommunity conflict but in the end its horizontal oppressive struggle. lesbians and gay men dont hate bi/pans more than straights do and vice versa
Yes. Intracommunity conflict is the best way to describe it. There's a lot of it in the LGBT community as a whole, if you want to call it that. It's very heavily fragmented. There's a lot of hate between twinks and bears, butch & femme lesbians, trans men and trans women (heck, there's even conflict amongst their own kind because of gate-keeping), asexuals, non-binaries...pretty much everybody. I wish it wasn't like that though.

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If you say you identify as a penguin, I'm going to be okay with that, whether I think it's ridiculous or not.

That's how I feel about all this bisexual hate stuff. I don't think people should judge other people for what they choose to identify as.

I identify as a penguin. ;)

But, in all seriousness, it is really unfortunate that many bisexual individuals receive negative push back, even within the LGBTQ+ community. I know at my school, even with how progressive it is (has a GSA, kids are rarely picked on for being lesbian or gay, discrimination and harassment are usually taken pretty seriously, etc), bisexual kids get much of the same comments people have been talking about. We (my school and area, frankly) have a long way to go, especially when it comes to fighting biphobia and transphobia (which is a whole other issue in it of itself).
 
I never said biphobia wasn't real? I am bi? (Idk if some people were implying I didn't think it was real or not but if not ignore this) But saying that lesbian girls hate bi girls more than straight people is anything but wrong.

Yes, I know some lesbians have said awful things to bi girls, but bi girls have said awful things to lesbians.

I think it's important to remember we are both women loving women. (well unless the bi girl doesnt like girls, then whatever but im going with the assumption most bi girls are attracted to girls as well)

Our enemy is not each other.

If you want an enemy, the only person you can really blame are straight people.

But there is so much community shared between women loving women. I have received so much support from lesbian girls. They do not look down on me. There is a vocal minority.

But I have seen bisexual girls say harmful **** about lesbians. Does this mean bi girls are more lesbophobic than straight girls? No.

I think it's perfectly fine to have healthy, respectful discussions on both sexualities. Ex bi girls do not face the same stigma as lesbians for liking girls. But framing one party as being more problematic or "privileged" isn't really right, you know?

It's a really thin line and hating each other won't help the community as a whole in anyway.
 
Just wanted to post this because *oh my goodness statistics are terrifying* ._. I've seen similar pictures/graphics before, but this one actually provided sources with case studies, so it seemed more reliable.

bisexmonth-and-oew-site.jpg
 
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Just wanted to post this because *oh my goodness statistics are terrifying* ._. I've seen similar pictures/graphics before, but this one actually provided sources with case studies, so it seemed more reliable.

http://www.oneequalworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/bisexmonth-and-oew-site.jpg

I wanted to just insert the image but it was too large. >_<

What I want to know is how many more men would actually identify as bisexual if there wasn't a stigma against bi men. I don't know why, but I do feel like women are "allowed" (for lack of a better term) in society's eyes to experiment more without a stigma.
 
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