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[amazonevan19]

Just bc she's the 2nd Miller claim it doesn't shoot down her credibility at all, if anything given the 2 minute gap to counterclaim I'd say it makes it more believable, than lets say, claiming when you're up for a lynch a day later. Vanessa isn't fairly experienced and from her POV I can see why she spoke up bc 'Miller' seems like a unique role.

Plus she claimed her role name first. Do you seriously think she lucked out by claiming the same flavour name as Toads? If anything I'm almost inclined to townlock her.

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@Jacob, if glow/dad live through tonight then I'll probs get a bit paranoid but honestly I tr Dad and glow's obv as scum usually so idk

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ay voting is open

yknow that actually kind of makes sense. Toads could be fake then the real miller, Vanessa, stepped out and claimed. But she's not calling toads fake cuz we have no way of knowing that there is only one miller. Getting more and more comfortable with a toads lynch tbh - I'm voting rune for now am open to changing.

(ik I'll look scummy as hell if toads does flip red but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)

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*but am open

 

[Locket]

I voted Toad for lynch. He's probably my most scum-lean at the moment.

If he flips green I'm dead honestly.

 

[N e s s]

Eh...I'm having my doubts about Toad. He's scummy but there are several factors here that I just can't see him doing as mafia. I'll reread him soon, I have a project due in about 5 hours so I may or may not be able to have the chance to finish what I wanted to post today.

 

[toadsworthy]

So thinking about the set up, what better way to counter balance two people who can be confirmed easily, but two people who can't be confirmed. Locket had no strong reads before having the sus on her.... but now she is paying attention and hs stronger opinions. It looks sus.

Still think that people are holding my campaign over my head. Vanessa's claim makes more sense in hindsight, from a balance perspective. Masons and cop is really strong, so two millers does work better. Glow seems to be tunneling me as a way to avoid doing any other reads. I'm a Miller guys, I swear. Her case on me is assuming I would play like a perfect mafia player and we all know I'm not like that.

Locket just feels like bad scum now with her recent posts and saying that Bianca faked the message is not likely. It just looks like she got caught and doing the most obvious to cover her own butt. The message is strange but like hilarious said I think it's worth taking a chance to see if we can trust these messages

 

[N e s s]

Locket just feels like bad scum now with her recent posts and saying that Bianca faked the message is not likely. It just looks like she got caught and doing the most obvious to cover her own butt. The message is strange but like hilarious said I think it's worth taking a chance to see if we can trust these messages

It seems more to me like you're taking the message as the most obvious cover for your own but.

 

[illunie]

My recommendation would be to lynch Rune or ITYW and keep this message about Locket in the back of our minds, as well as keep our eyes on Toad/Vanessa. I don't think it'd be wise to act impulsively on the basis of a message that can be fabricated (unlikely) or false (VERY likely).

im fairly certain the best lynches today is between toad and vanessa, theres no risk to lynching since theyre both claiming mason (basically town) and it would give us a lot of information about everyone elses reads. waitng seems like a missed opportunity to get scum now

 

[glow]

Eh...I'm having my doubts about Toad. He's scummy but there are several factors here that I just can't see him doing as mafia. I'll reread him soon, I have a project due in about 5 hours so I may or may not be able to have the chance to finish what I wanted to post today.

which factors?

 

[N e s s]

which factors?

Glancing at my phone for a second but I'll explain soon enough (I REALLY gotta get this done I seriously can't fail this class) but part of it being that I can't see toads playing as poorly as he has done so far. This sounds unlikely but I can't shake the feeling that he is SOMEHOW a jester; it could be something similar to how I could become jester if I wanted to, but there are several things that I feel don't line up with him being mafia. Just for the record, I'm not excusing him in the slightest; I haven't had time to properly analyze him so I'm sure there is something I'm missing, I'm going off of things I've seen and used my first thoughts

 

[Jacob]

I don't think I've ever really played a game with an aware miller unless I'm forgetting. Do they usually just out themselves?

I went back in the thread to try to like figure out why exactly toads just claimed and I think his reasoning is kinda weak. Claiming miller clearly didn't make you seem less scummy, I'd think you would've anticipated that. Like thinking back it really isn't even a scummy move because I can why someone with that role would want to claim. It was just kinda stupid no matter your alignment, no offense

Is that the primary reason for people wanting to lynch Toads? Because it kinda can go both ways

Vanessa claiming it after someone did it first makes a little more sense to me

 

[Byngo]

i bet toad and locket r bussing each other

imo it seems a little more obvious from locket. in a span of only like 15 minutes she went from this

toadsworthy - Null. Not much evidence to go against him in my opinion. Saying about the millers does seem a little scummy, but I'm not going to judge off of that. Also the Vanessa/Toad miller claim.

to this

I personally think that Bianca and other mafia players came up with that whole thing. There is no way she could pull this off herself.

I personally do. Yes, their names being Bill is a coincidence, but both being millers? That seems too far stretched. Most likely Toads is lying about it. I have a feeling Toads would be more skilled in lying about it.

Also, have we seen any Toad/Bianca interactions?

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Looking more towards the whole Toads thing: I feel like Toads is scum.

I see a Toads/Bianca team likely at the moment.

check the time frame if u don?t believe it was in just 15 mins

icba to bring toad quotes up but basically the only time i recall him mentioning her was when he thought she ?townslipped? like even during the message situation, toad didn?t really say anything other than ?locket is probably a miller too? which i assume is a joke. now all of a sudden she?s so scummy

id be fine w lynching either of them

 

[N e s s]

Food for thought: If Toads were mafia, why would he claim Self Aware Miller of all things. I mean seriously, who here remembers the Starrywolf incident from Smash Mafia 1? If he were Mafia, I want to say that he would claim something a little more convincing? (like...a blue role lol)

Townie claims usually don't save a scum player when they're close to the lynch unless a miracle happens...I kinda feel like Toads would know that.

 

[Jacob]

Locket just feels like bad scum now with her recent posts and saying that Bianca faked the message is not likely. It just looks like she got caught and doing the most obvious to cover her own butt. The message is strange but like hilarious said I think it's worth taking a chance to see if we can trust these messages

This is really scummy though it just sounded like a poor attempt at changing the lynch for just a "chance" of it being a successful lynch

 

[N e s s]

This is really scummy though it just sounded like a poor attempt at changing the lynch for just a "chance" of it being a successful lynch

And that is precisely one of the things that have me confused > : (

 

[Jacob]

Food for thought: If Toads were mafia, why would he claim Self Aware Miller of all things. I mean seriously, who here remembers the Starrywolf incident from Smash Mafia 1? If he were Mafia, I want to say that he would claim something a little more convincing? (like...a blue role lol)

Townie claims usually don't save a scum player when they're close to the lynch unless a miracle happens...I kinda feel like Toads would know that.

He wasn't really nearing a lynch tho, it was right after night ended. Glow had a good point that maybe he was paranoid someone inspected him if he is mafia

 

[N e s s]

He wasn't really nearing a lynch tho, it was right after night ended. Glow had a good point that maybe he was paranoid someone inspected him if he is mafia

Either way, It doesn't really help him at all. SA Miller claims are almost always sketchy (ESPECIALLY if someone is like Toads is in his current state), so it has me confused.

 

[toadsworthy]

Town or mafia I would be afraid of that.... all this ****ing sus just lynch me at this point Jesus, I'm ****ing done

 

[Jacob]

Ya I'm confused too that's why I feel like there needs to be like at least one other good reason to lynch him and I'll be on board

 

[Locket]

I don't think I've ever really played a game with an aware miller unless I'm forgetting. Do they usually just out themselves?

I went back in the thread to try to like figure out why exactly toads just claimed and I think his reasoning is kinda weak. Claiming miller clearly didn't make you seem less scummy, I'd think you would've anticipated that. Like thinking back it really isn't even a scummy move because I can why someone with that role would want to claim. It was just kinda stupid no matter your alignment, no offense

Is that the primary reason for people wanting to lynch Toads? Because it kinda can go both ways

Vanessa claiming it after someone did it first makes a little more sense to me

An unaware miller is presented with a town role, but upon inspection they come back as mafia.
I was an unaware miller in Caxnival.

 

[N e s s]

Although that does make me question his motives for doing it, I want to say if he really was a Miller he would have kept it hidden a while longer to see if a cop actually did mention investigating him.

 

[Locket]

i bet toad and locket r bussing each other

imo it seems a little more obvious from locket. in a span of only like 15 minutes she went from this

to this

check the time frame if u don?t believe it was in just 15 mins

icba to bring toad quotes up but basically the only time i recall him mentioning her was when he thought she ?townslipped? like even during the message situation, toad didn?t really say anything other than ?locket is probably a miller too? which i assume is a joke. now all of a sudden she?s so scummy

id be fine w lynching either of them

I was doing quick skimming of posts. I gathered mostly null from Toads until I took a closer look at a few of his posts.