Unisex bathrooms

[RainbowCherry]

...Eh, people could pretend to be unisex and peek into the other stalls because for some reason stalls have gaps, as Nightmares said directly indirectly.

I don't really think it's necessary for gender reasons, but when an establishment can only, for whatever reason, get one bathroom it could be a very tactful placement, and have it appeal to that crowd at the same time would be nice. I don't really know how much building a whole room costs. As also stated by others, the purpose of a bathroom is to go to the toilet. Women's stalls don't have urinals for obvious reasons, and men's do, and such. They're literally designed to accommodate for what your genitals are, not what your... gender is? Is that the right word?

 

[Wolfycheeks]

Non-binary isn't a tumblr thing oh my god lol. I don't know why I'm bothering if you're one of those people who think every "new" concept they don't understand is from tumblr. You can literally google non-binary history and find a plethora of information about it but I doubt you will. I doubt you'd even read a source if I linked 10.

Saying "nobody cares" is a rather grand claim for someone who doesn't even believe in nonbinary people. But again, a problem isn't solved if someone is still uncomfortable going into a bathroom.

Pages like what? 'everyday feminism'? 'nonbinary.com'? everything is on pages like LGBT, not a single actual history page to be found that talks about it, I never read about it in any of my history classes either, and I quite like history lol.

Also look at this and tell me again how these things aren't made up by tumblr. Edit: the word poop is banned so the page does not work. This is another example.

 

[seliph]

...Eh, people could pretend to be unisex and peek into the other stalls because for some reason stalls have gaps, as Nightmares said.

If people were gonna perv on others they would do it in any bathroom. Unisex bathrooms aren't gonna change anything in that area.

 

[Wolfycheeks]

...Eh, people could pretend to be unisex and peek into the other stalls because for some reason stalls have gaps, as Nightmares said.

I don't really think it's necessary for gender reasons, but when an establishment can only, for whatever reason, get one bathroom it could be a very tactful placement, and have it appeal to that crowd at the same time would be nice. I don't really know how much building a whole room costs. As also stated by others, the purpose of a bathroom is to go to the toilet. Women's stalls don't have urinals for obvious reasons, and men's do, and such. They're literally designed to accommodate for what your genitals are, not what your... gender is? Is that the right word?

Listen to Tristana. She isn't the best champ for no reason. :^)

 

[That Zephyr Guy]

Pages like what? 'everyday feminism'? 'nonbinary.com'? everything is on pages like LGBT, not a single actual history page to be found that talks about it, I never read about it in any of my history classes either, and I quite like history lol.

Also look at this and tell me again how these things aren't made up by tumblr. Edit: the word poop is banned so the page does not work. This is another example.

Well if you desperately need a source for an ancient form of non-binaryism


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit



Sources can be found at the bottom of the page.

 

[RainbowCherry]

Listen to Tristana. She isn't the best champ for no reason. :^)

IS THAT A ROCKET IN YOUR POCKET FEMALE CHAMPION

 

[Wolfycheeks]

Well if you desperately need a source for an ancient form of non-binaryism


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit



Sources can be found at the bottom of the page.

Look, anyone can edit a wikipedia page, wikipedia will let you type Hitler is actually an alien living on the moon if you give them 10 bucks. Unreliable source.

 

[RainbowCherry]

If people were gonna perv on others they would do it in any bathroom. Unisex bathrooms aren't gonna change anything in that area.

It's not inconspicuous at all to walk into a girls bathroom as a dude?

 

[Wolfycheeks]

IS THAT A ROCKET IN YOUR POCKET FEMALE CHAMPION

I'm a female champion? Now I just need a summoner, lol. Also her skins are so cute ugh, but, we all know cutest ADC is twitch. Last post i'll make before I go too much offtopic : <

 

[Jacob]

Look, anyone can edit a wikipedia page, wikipedia will let you type Hitler is actually an alien living on the moon if you give them 10 bucks. Unreliable source.

I'm not agreeing nor disagreeing with anyone, but That Zephyr Guy was actually referring to the reliable sources that influenced the wiki page, not the page itself I think.

Edit: The ones that were referenced and cited at the end of the page.

 

[seliph]

Look, anyone can edit a wikipedia page, wikipedia will let you type Hitler is actually an alien living on the moon if you give them 10 bucks. Unreliable source.

It's actually not that easy to screw with Wikipedia anymore though, you'll be IP banned from editing and they'll revert the information if it's wrong.

It's not inconspicuous at all to walk into a girls bathroom as a dude?

When.... where did I say that at all

Edit you edited your post and now I don't even know what you're saying

 

[leftTBT]

I don't think it's neccisary at all, you're either male or female (trans is male or female too), and even if you don't identify as male or female, if you pass as one or the other in society's eyes, then you should have no trouble going to the toilet to pee.

I agree, except I do think that unisex bathrooms are a good idea. If you're transgender (male to female, for example) and don't look like a random creeper who obviously isn't transgender, I doubt most people are going to start assessing whether you look 'female enough' and harass you if you go into the women's bathroom.
If someone who is transgender/starting to transition doesn't feel comfortable and is afraid of getting harassed, then I think we should have a unisex bathroom option, too.
But things like Target's policy are just asking for non-transgender creepers to take advantage of it.
That's just my opinion.

 

[mogyay]

men perv on women everyday in broad daylight, they don't have to walk into a bathroom when it's already easy

 

[seliph]

But things like Target's policy are just asking for non-transgender creepers to take advantage of it.
That's just my opinion.

Again, people do not need unisex or trans-friendly bathrooms to creep on people. If someone wanted to sexually harass someone, they would do it regardless of the washroom they're in.

 

[That Zephyr Guy]

Look, anyone can edit a wikipedia page, wikipedia will let you type Hitler is actually an alien living on the moon if you give them 10 bucks. Unreliable source.

Sources. Are. At. The Bottom.


Here, I'll pull a few up for you since you're insistent on being stubborn.


http://nativeout.com/twospirit-rc/two-spirit-101/
http://nativeout.com/twospirit-rc/two-spirit-101/two-spirit-terms-in-tribal-languages/
http://www.buffalo.edu/ubreporter/archive/vol38/vol38n24/articles/BacigalupoShamens.html
https://books.google.com/books?id=d5mqEk6UKUUC&pg=PA151#v=onepage&q&f=false



Also, hey look, the Samoans have something similar to this to:

http://assofias.webs.com/visionmissioncharity.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/ra/pacific/people/hazy.htm



So yeah, there's your sources.

 

[RainbowCherry]

It's actually not that easy to screw with Wikipedia anymore though, you'll be IP banned from editing and they'll revert the information if it's wrong.


When.... where did I say that at all

Edit you edited your post and now I don't even know what you're saying

Didn't change anything I said about that, I just edited my grammar issue and changed a bit of wording because I had differing opinions about something and pointed that out so they wouldn't assume, but you're likely not referencing that, but that's all I edited. I said not not suspicious technically, so, disregard the thing with the huge line through it? I honestly don't know why I just didn't remove it completely.

"If people were gonna perv on others they would do it in any bathroom. Unisex bathrooms aren't gonna change anything in that area."

Unless the whole word is into their own gender, why would it not be suspicious for them to walk into the bathroom they want to perv on... which would, from the majority, would be the opposite?

^People can perv on each other in broad daylight, yeah, but people aren't naked from the waist-down in public, and a creepy creep would vastly prefer that, unless I'm being stupid or whatever.

 

[Aali]

I think they're ok (mainly because I never ever use public bathrooms) especially if you're trans, also love family bathrooms I remember being scared to go in when I was little and my dad had to stay outside and I got nervous of all the other people in there

But I do not believe in nonbinary (probably gonna get hate for saying it but hey its the internet)

 

[Gregriii]

Remember to keep it civil, please

 

[Wolfycheeks]

Sources. Are. At. The Bottom.


Here, I'll pull a few up for you since you're insistent on being stubborn.


http://nativeout.com/twospirit-rc/two-spirit-101/
http://nativeout.com/twospirit-rc/two-spirit-101/two-spirit-terms-in-tribal-languages/
http://www.buffalo.edu/ubreporter/archive/vol38/vol38n24/articles/BacigalupoShamens.html
https://books.google.com/books?id=d5mqEk6UKUUC&pg=PA151#v=onepage&q&f=false

Calm down man, I did read it. It's so much different from now though, they're demanding attetion and to be treated like a special snowflake. I also don't think it worked quite the same. What nonbinary people want is to be special. Last cis-person I saw on tumblr, well, I can't even remember. It's almost a trend nowadays to be anythng other then cis. It's just a cry for attention or the need to feel special. Most of them don't even want to change, they just want they/them (or ze/zir etc) pronouns, but not actually change their bodies, which also does not make them trans, since they're not even transitioning.. which they ofcourse claim to be. Did you know, on trans day of visibility, the day to raise awareness for transgender people, people who go trough a lot of ****, who face struggles about their body every day, who kill themselves, and so on, was taken over by thousands of nonbinary people, who are 100% okay with showing off their genitals on their tumblr, calling themselves cute little princesses (while claiming to be nonbinary)? It just annoys me so much. They should just go to the disabled space toilets.

 

[seliph]

Didn't change anything I said about that, I just edited my grammar issue and changed a bit of wording because I had differing opinions about something and pointed that out so they wouldn't assume, but you're likely not referencing that, but that's all I edited. I said not not suspicious technically, so, disregard the thing with the huge line through it? I honestly don't know why I just didn't remove it completely.

You changed the itallics to a strikeout, that's where I got confused and thought maybe I read the comment wrong

Unless the whole word is into their own gender, why would it not be suspicious for them to walk into the bathroom they want to perv on... which would, from the majority, would be the opposite?

I never said it wouldn't be suspicious, I'm not sure where you're getting at honestly. I'm saying men walk into the women's washroom with intent to assault all the time, and having unisex/trans-friendly bathrooms isn't gonna heighten that.