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[Locket]

The message Bianca received was false, so maybe the one they just sent Ness is just so we don't lynch Waffles. Though there is the possibility that Ness' message is also false.

I personally think that the messages are scum set-up. One of the scum roles must have the power to send out messages to people.

 

[Byngo]

i mean, honestly i tr'd locket 50% because of the message so maybe they tried to do the same thing w/ waff

if scum went the reverse psychology route, then there’s atkeast 1 fairly experienced/skilled player on the team

 

[cornimer]

if scum went the reverse psychology route, then there’s atkeast 1 fairly experienced/skilled player on the team

Tbh, I think Waffles is capable of that. She tried to employ reverse psychology tactics when we worked together in RHOM. Maybe she sent her own name in

 

[Byngo]

Tbh, I think Waffles is capable of that. She tried to employ reverse psychology tactics when we worked together in RHOM. Maybe she sent her own name in

hmm true

ye i think im still fine w an ityw lynch cuz it will probably provide the most info

 

[cornimer]

Yeah I'm good with a Waffles lynch too (but not because I believe the message, the opposite actually)

 

[glow]

If there is some sort of scum antithesis to Ness' ability then I can see it being done for the sake of causing confusion and getting weak town lynched but again Bianca is an odd choice, still specific too. And yet at the same time if it's a cop thing redirected then I feel more confident about it being the team I mentioned. But then there's thinking about why cop would choose to inspect Locket N0 of all people.

r u sussing ness here? can't tell if its paranoid overthinking or if you do actually entertain the idea of him being mafia

Also I hate it when people swoop in minutes after they're being discussed to defend themselves. Tells me they've been lurking. I like how the first response is to start up a me vs glow battle and yet I've not just been sussing glow since night: I started sussing her and Jacob shortly before the lynch actually.

man i'm offended u think i was trying to 1v1 u. pls i would do a lot better than that post if i was

i don't really think you're mafia. i had you sorted town early d0, you felt a lil murky on d1 with the rune split and i think you placing me in a scumpool with toads/jacob/locket felt like you were ignoring some important interactions

i think it's fine that you sus me. also i fully admit to lurking this game, it's the only way i can somewhat keep up w/ the pace of this thread

btw wholeheartedly agree on jacob, he's likely the best lynch next to waff.

side note: who else but waffles would send a message as maf whisperer to bianca trying to fake a report without putting the report in colored letters lmao

 

[cornimer]

side note: who else but waffles would send a message as maf whisperer to bianca trying to fake a report without putting the report in colored letters lmao

Yeah honestly both of these messages make sense to have come from Waffles
Maybe we found our fake oracle

 

[N e s s]

Okay, but the biggest point of evidence for me that suggests it might actually be true is the fact the PM is titled Night Result. I feel like only the host could put that and not the mafia.

Once again, if there actually is an Oracle out there, they need to claim now. It obviously can't be waffles assuming it's town aligned (if she tries to say it's her then we're lynching her immediately) as I see no reason for her to investigate herself.

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Actually I might have an idea of who this supposed Oracle is, still want them to out themselves though.

 

[Locket]

Okay, but the biggest point of evidence for me that suggests it might actually be true is the fact the PM is titled Night Result. I feel like only the host could put that and not the mafia.

The mafia could've contacted the host. The host then sends the message and named it "Night Result."

Maybe it's the "night result" because the mafia used the power, and they sent the "result" to you?

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Though, there could be the possibility with the:

Locket is mafia.
Waffles is mafia.

When the message isn't red or bolded, it could be fake. When the message is red and bold, it could be real.

I don't know, I might be thinking about this too much.

 

[Biancasbotique]

Okay, but the biggest point of evidence for me that suggests it might actually be true is the fact the PM is titled Night Result. I feel like only the host could put that and not the mafia.
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Yeah it says Night Results

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Okay, but the biggest point of evidence for me that suggests it might actually be true is the fact the PM is titled Night Result. I feel like only the host could put that and not the mafia.

Once again, if there actually is an Oracle out there, they need to claim now. It obviously can't be waffles assuming it's town aligned (if she tries to say it's her then we're lynching her immediately) as I see no reason for her to investigate herself.

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Actually I might have an idea of who this supposed Oracle is, still want them to out themselves though.

Ness, it could be from the same person but this time that person made sure to send the message with red in color for the mafia..

 

[toadsworthy]

Well I am fully recovered from drinking/hangover and successfully drove home... it was quite a bad evening for me, but great too to say the least

I just caught up on the thread and here are some thoughts

1. My role is green

2. Waffles makes sense to be investigated I guess, but it all seems too convenient. I definitely agree about if oracle or whoever is making these investigations doesn't come forward then we disregard them as well.

3. Waffles is still a good lynch candidate today, I read back on her posts and the change in tone is still there. Read her games as town vs mafia and you will understand what I mean. Jacob didn't post anything for quite some time, then comes back and just adds a defensive post. No reads on the game or anything, just defends himself. It was strange. I would be ok with lynching him today too

4. I realize I haven't done a full reads list, and I swear I will do it tonight or tomorrow while at clinic. I just drove for 4 hours after vomitting all day though, so tonight may not be likely heehee

5. This would be the time where I'm like "look at the quiet ones" but I don't think anyone really falls into that category. Locket is a little eh, even taking away the message. Hikari has decent posts, but I would like some more of them. Byngo I always want more content from. Maybe the post counts will go down now that punchy is gone too

 

[N e s s]

Hey @Vanessa, what's the color of your role name/miller thing?

 

[toadsworthy]

Also I feel like the messages in general are just a distraction.... look at the flow of conversation of this game so far. Its hyper focused on the messages. Regardless I don't think they would point to all members of the team and we need to figure out who the last ones are. I intend to look at Rune's interactions either with my reads or right after, but @Ness did you look at the interactions and figure anything out?

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Evan is in this game? I forgot, maybe you would fall into the "suspiciously needs to post more" for me actually

 

[N e s s]

Toads just so we're clear, is your flavor name green (Bill Cosby) or is the "Self-Aware Miller" part of your role green?

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And I haven't fully looked at Rune's interactions yet.

 

[amazonevan19]

hmm so waffles is mafia message huh? At risk of getting accused of piggybacking, I agree that the oracle should step forward now if they exist. And they probably won't because it's either (a) waffles as a scum messenger or (b) they want to protect themselves. Lynching either locket or waffles would be very helpful in determining the truthfulness of the messages but tbh Waffles just flat out deserves to be lynched regardless of the authenticity of the messages.

Killing punchy doesn't make much sense, but I suppose scum figured there wouldn't be a protect on him? idk. Heyden is saved so that means three scum are probably left rather than two

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I need to trawl through Rune's posts more myself but something that stood out to me by looking at his most recent posts is how much he argued the Locket message could be legit and how he wanted to lynch locket or one of the millers. This semi-clears the millers imo; he could have been bussing Locket but eh idk. Just a thought.

 

[toadsworthy]

My name is black, but my role is green

 

[N e s s]

People Rune has interacted with:

PunchyDaHufflepuff - He made a LOT of posts in regards to Punchy.
Toadsworthy - Barely
Jacob - Quotes him once, barely speaks
Amazonevan19
N e s s - Myself
Dolby - Dead
Tina - Dead
Dad - Quotes him and the two of them actually seem to genuinely speak to eachother; doesn’t seem forced
Biancasbotique: Quotes her with a snarky response
Glow - Quotes her several times
VanessaMay18
Heyden - Quotes him once
Byngo - Quotes her several times asking her about the message I sent her
Hikari - Quotes her several times in regards to the oracle conspiracy

Players Rune has never quoted/replied to:

ITookYourWaffles
Locket

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:thinking::thinking::thinking: funny how 2 players who have both gotten scum reports from this """oracle""" are the only 2 players that Rune has never quoted or said anything about

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Ness, it could be from the same person but this time that person made sure to send the message with red in color for the mafia..

That is true, but my point is that I can't see the host sending a PM stated "Night Results" only for it to be from a mafia whisperer. I mean, what role allows the PM title to be manipulated? This isn't to say I necessarily think that the Locket result is true, but the evidence that is stacked towards Waffles right now makes me kinda inclined to say otherwise.

 

[Jacob]

Breaking down playerlist


Confirmed
PunchyDaHufflepuff
Dolby
Tina
Heyden
Runeraider

Claiming Miller - I feel like this topic has been the focus of interest for so much of the game where we won't actually come up with an answer at this point. If I were to pick my thoughts about it and move, I'd categorize them as more town than not. Technically they claimed, they weren't like inspected and came back guilty or anything. So I'm willing to believe it as more of a pro-town act and move on from there. However I am super super hesitant about categorizing Toads as town. I was really prepared to go along with the crowd and lynch him because I never gave the miller claims much thought honestly, so I only singled in on his "drunk" play (I've played drunk before, no one will or needs to know, don't try to hide behind it as am excuse). Nonetheless, giving it more thought, claiming Miller is something you either believe or you don't.
toadsworthy
VanessaMay18


Gut guesses from reading their posts - There hasn't been much controversial attention particularly given to these players, so based on play, probability, language, and how other players roles flipped out, here's what I've deducted.
Dad
N e s s
Biancasbotique
glow
Hikari
Byngo
amazonevan19

The possibly "fabricated" return as mafia results - You really can't be too sure about this, because a mafia "inspection" result is a result, and there is the possibility it could be real. But heres my theory: It's already been speculated and pretty universally decided (I think) that the messages were fake. They aren't even in the same format with the colors. Besides, would trundle even word it like that? ____ Is Mafia. Would he not say something like _____ Came back as Mafia-Alligned or _______ Shows red blood or something more formal than just "is Mafia"? I think Locket's was a lie, the mafia wrote a message and sent it out to Bianca, thinking she'd believe it or something, and failing to color the word mafia as a normal host would. Then they thought that since no one believed the first message about Locket (as we didn't vote her), they sent a similar one about a scum partner, Waffles, changing up the format thinking people wouldn't believe it as well.
Locket
ITookYourWaffles

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ITYW/Hikari/Byngo/Amazon

2 more mafia is in this list I'm almost certain

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Also I'm outruling myself on the Godfather thing because the kills are pretty lame in terms of blue sniping and anything else tactic wise that I can perceive

 

[Jacob]

The possibly "fabricated" return as mafia results - You really can't be too sure about this, because a mafia "inspection" result is a result, and there is the possibility it could be real. But heres my theory: It's already been speculated and pretty universally decided (I think) that the messages were fake. They aren't even in the same format with the colors. Besides, would trundle even word it like that? ____ Is Mafia. Would he not say something like _____ Came back as Mafia-Alligned or _______ Shows red blood or something more formal than just "is Mafia"? I think Locket's was a lie, the mafia wrote a message and sent it out to Bianca, thinking she'd believe it or something, and failing to color the word mafia as a normal host would. Then they thought that since no one believed the first message about Locket (as we didn't vote her), they sent a similar one about a scum partner, Waffles, changing up the format thinking people wouldn't believe it as well.

Rip just read back and glow already explained this possibility in like one line 2 pages ago I'm not intelligent

 

[Byngo]

last read list you tl’d me for spilling the content of ness’ message. what’s changed ur read of me enough to include me in ur scumpool

and do you still hold the idea that maf r inexperienced and/or unskilled? im not gonna comment on myself cuz that’s presumptuous but evan is def above the unskilled lvl

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o wait nvm you tr’d me for simply revealing i got a message, before i actuslly spilled the contents

my question still remains tho