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[Byngo]

Waffles seems like it's almost too forced of a choice for their message of who 'mafia' is and I think they want us to realize that and draw that conclusion that it's too convenient of a choice and that we'll townread Waffles because of it. Because I don't think even a team with at least one or two mid-tear players and no experienced players would even do something that obvious and expect some of us alive to swallow it.

correct me if im misinterpretating what ur saying

r u saying you don’t think there’s atleast a mid tier player on scum because they’re using reverse psychology? or is the second sentence in reference to inexperienced scum framing waffle

 

[unravel]

Ffs guys Im Ted Cruz I dunno who the **** is this guy I'm not from America anyway

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Uhhh you guys know that its random generator and not balancing right?

 

[cornimer]

I'm like confident the reverse psychology is waffles bc in RHOM she told people I was scum on the last day to make them think she was lying again and it was someone else

 

[N e s s]

Wowie 7 votes on waffles already? Sure hop the majority rule isn't a thing

 

[glow]

ness why do u think bandwagons =/= scum

 

[Byngo]

i count 6 votes

tho now that u mention it i can’t recall trundle ever saying if he was using majority or plurality

 

[unravel]

You know I wouldn't do the same since this tactic is way obvious

 

[N e s s]

ness why do u think bandwagons =/= scum

I never said I did, just saying that's a lot for 24 hours into D1

 

[amazonevan19]

well IF somehow waffles is not scum, we'll at least 100% know the messages are horse****. If she flips scum, that leaves room for doubt on the message validity but it could mean a reexamination of Locket.

The fact the messenger STILL hasn't come forward though...yeah. Probably a maf maneuver.

 

[N e s s]

@Waffles Who would you prefer the lynch to be on right now? And what are your reads

 

[Geoni]

correct me if im misinterpretating what ur saying

r u saying you don’t think there’s atleast a mid tier player on scum because they’re using reverse psychology? or is the second sentence in reference to inexperienced scum framing waffle

In reference to inexperienced scum framing waffles. Again I think it's reverse psych is my best guess. But I can't be completely sure either. I'll be able to spend more time fully analyzing interactions at midnight once I am alone midshift.

Apparently there is indeed already a votepile and I don't like that.

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Um why is the oracle not coming forward knowing that there is a doctor (i.e.e heyden got saved)..don't be afraid..the doctor will save you!

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or Locket is really mafia and its a gamble because everyone will not believe me anyways, so after this , Locket will be spared..and from then on go unnoticed until Mafia wins

Hate this post. Doctor does not need to out and you still seem to feel very sure about Locket. Sure I have scumread her behavior but at this point an obvious mafia messenger is obvious. You telling doc to out doesn't sit right with me.

 

[N e s s]

Hate this post. Doctor does not need to out and you still seem to feel very sure about Locket. Sure I have scumread her behavior but at this point an obvious mafia messenger is obvious. You telling doc to out doesn't sit right with me.

Wtf Bianca isn't telling Doctor to out

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She's literally saying telling this "Oracle" that they have nothing to be worried about because of the existence of Doctor

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I don't like that post by dad. It seems fishy.

 

[Geoni]

Yeah you're right she didn't. I'm rushreading because of work. Redacted.

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Also yeeeep there's something about this bandwagon that doesn't sit well with me, especially since some of the people I find sus are voting Waffles no questions asked. Could be WIFOM and this was actually played straight. I have to say, mafia is doing well with this role because it is indeed causing chaos.

 

[toadsworthy]

ok, sorry we had a late patient today... I'm doing full reads now looking at everyone's ISO, so may take some time
god all I want to do is play splatoon

 

[Jacob]

The fact the messenger STILL hasn't come forward though...yeah. Probably a maf maneuver.

It could just be poor wording, but I really don't like the way you're addressing this. This line kind of implies that you know it's a messenger role, either mafia or town sided. The messages themselves are either coming from a Mafia messenger role or a Town inspection role. There is no town messenger that logically would send "_____ is mafia" without inspecting a player first.

So either you didn't word what you're trying to say correctly or you just scum slipped

 

[toadsworthy]

Ness - if you think he is at all scum we will have problems. The role is too intricate to be faked

amazonevan19 - so like I pointed out earlier, you have been suspiciously more quiet than usual. However reading back on your posts, they seem really genuine. There doesn't feel like ulterior motives or like you are trying to get anything out of your posts... they contribute, maybe not in the best way and at times are too focused on one topic at a time, but its on par to what I expect with you tbh

biancasbotique - I don't pride myself with being able to read bianca well, but honestly its pretty obvious this time. Town bianca has become more subtle at least than outright saying she is town (thank you for that btw) and scum bianca is clear as day. Not as strong of a town lean as ness, but she's up there.

VanessaMay18] - geez were lovers, were millers, apparently were just meant to be <3. I was skeptical about double millers at first just because we hardly ever see it, but from a balance standpoint for this game two millers actually makes perfect sense and a good counter to having masons with some investigative role. Aside from that, scum vanessa in RHOM focused more on subtlety pointing fingers at other people, but the way you handled Ness's election and having a second miller was pretty "town vanessa".

glow - to tunneling me so hard, to all of a sudden you just kinda dropped it... its really strange for you. Your play style in general is very intense and I stand by the analysis that the case you built on me was founded in a thought that I would play perfectly in a game, but I've nothing but proved I am never like that. So I don't sus you for continuing to play like that, because I damn well deserved it with how ****ty I was, but now that you turned such a quick switch it seems like you are trying to avoid something and it feels suspicious. Like you knew continuing to tunnel me would bring attention to you, so you stopped.

Dad - I feel like you and glow would not be on the same team though. Some of your pushes and arguments feel really forced. The bianca thing a second ago, the wishy-washy thing on me. You also like semi-defended Rune day 1 from vanessa a few times I noticed.

Except for Runeraider of course because you've already hypocritically accused him of fluff which I pointed out earlier.

Anyways, why are you suddenly singling Jacob out for that reason. Too much focus on the Punchy/Dolby situation can be attributed to a number of players that were active in the game at the time. Did Tina bringing this up prompt you to look at people focusing too much on it?

Like this post, you try to coerce vanessa off her sus of Rune and switch the convo really quick. It looks very team-y.

Locket - ok the messages are throwing me off, but I can't get away from the creeping suspicion that you are scum. If waffles does turn out to be scum, the message could still turn out to be true for reverse psychology reasons. Putting two team members out there "as scum" is risky, but so is this tactic in the first place. The other chance is that these messages are some sort of actual investigative role with a seed of truth behind it and you are just scum along with waffles. Apart from all this hoopla, your sus of bianca carried on a little bit too long to be a knee jerk reaction and you seemed to come alive to the idea of voting me when everyone did start sussing you for the initial message.

Heyden - I honestly thought your fake miller claim and post about softing doctor to get killed were too honest to be scum. If you are doing this as scum you deserve an oscar or something. Other than that all your reads and posts don't feel forced or weird.

Hikari - you have 18 posts? wtf?... I read all of them (because not much) and theres a lot of contradiction. Its actually so much contradiction it comes across as you just bouncing around with your opinions rather than trying to consistently force lynches on people. As well as this post:

ah shoot i didnt realize vlting was gonna end so soon. I'm think I'll be voting for Rune. I'm not comfortable with bandwagons in general and toads defeated tone makes me feel like he's town. He's also at least tried to explain his reasoning and admits that his behavior looked scummy while it feels like Rune has been trying to avoid acknowledging those that think they are scum and had been trying to target others instead of defending themself.

Why switch off voting me when you could've saved Rune? Its a bold move to bus your partner that much and it doesn't make much sense if you actually were on a team with Rune. More to come below on Rune interactions

Byngo - Hmmmmm... you are so quiet all the time, it makes me question any read I ever get on you. I would say I probably have the toughest time reading you of all. Nothing in your posts dissuades me one way or the other tbh.

Jacob - I stand by that you are so "desperate to be contributive" in your posts, you come in after a hiatus and your first thought is to be defensive. As well as you, waffles, and some other sus people didn't vote for Rune. The vote that day very easily could've been me, so I highly doubt Rune's scummates voted for him, not all of them... 80% sure waffles is one of them and there is probably another in there too. Plus looking at the points you make, alot of them aren't related to scum/town reads at all but more focused on either the messages (wording, coloring, etc.) or like Locket to some degree you saw the opportunity to lynch me and tried to take it too.

ITookYourWaffles - I said you had a marked change in tone and I still stand by it. Town waffles is jovial and funny, but this waffles is sarcastic, borderline rude, and sort of lying. A few posts ago you said, "my role is an attorney and politician from texas" then like two posts later say "I don't know anything about american politics" like wtf. You are gaining a lot of votes fast though and bandwagons are never easy to swallow.

Runeraider[/color - this is the portion where I look at Runeraider's posts.

Him and Vanessa got into it a little bit, and honestly I don't think Vanessa is strong enough as scum to bus her teammates like that... especially if Rune AND waffles both turned out to be scum.

His biggest sus early on day 1 was bianca which is honestly an easy target and myself, which again is an easy target. I highly doubt even moreso that bianca is scum.

He focused alot on the punchy/dolby thing, even when punchy was confirmed.

His interactions with locket and jacob feel the most forced and awkward tbh.

i didnt assume. i guessed that locket was going to call miller, and said that i felt it would be unlikely for there two be three separate millers before locket claimed. im sorry if it was too unclear, but i thought it was be easy to interpret that.

Like what even was this conversation?

im not sure if asking jacob about his game has any real relevance to this game, since trundle didnt play in that game so im pretty sure he wasnt influenced by it

weirdly defensive of jacob for like a strange reason.

This post has gotten long enough now, I'm going to go vegetate on splatoon or something

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So glow/dad/locket/jacob/waffles for scum team

probably one in glow/dad, two in jacob/locket/waffles, and Rune of course.

and man I missed some formatting stuff in there, but I think you get it.

 

[unravel]

Well its true I know nothing about americanpolitics except Tedd Cruz what yall expect?

 

[N e s s]

Well its true I know nothing about americanpolitics except Tedd Cruz what yall expect?

can you go back and read actual points against you

 

[Jacob]

weirdly defensive of jacob for like a strange reason.

Huh? He wasn't even talking about me as a player, he was referring to Steven Universe Mafia and it's roles.

 

[toadsworthy]

Huh? He wasn't even talking about me as a player, he was referring to Steven Universe Mafia and it's roles.

thats why its weird