Let?s see, being forced into a southern baptist church my entire childhood & constantly listening to a stream of homophobic and racist remarks for almost two decades...being told I am going to hell because I?m gay...listening to people say that we should murder gay people... yeah, actually. I think that pretty much sums up why I hate church & Christianity. I know my experience with church isn?t normal, but it?s enough for me to know there is no god. Not a loving one, that?s for sure.
I just reread this and I'm not trying to be hostile. I just think it's a little weird to say people shouldn't discount a religion when they've had bad experiences with it. That's like if I said I hated seafood but was still encouraged to try more seafood because I haven't experienced everything. My prior experience with seafood will stand in that I do not like seafood.
Well, sorry you've had such a bad experience but those don't really sound like Christian people to me. The whole point is love your neighbor as you love yourself. Sexuality shouldn't affect that at all. I personally don't know the answer as to why homosexuality has so much emphasis put on as a terrible sin when there are other sins out there that are really horrible. Okay, well let's say you try a slice of pizza at Donatos and you develop a sense of dislike for pizza. However, you decide to give it a second chance and try it at another place like Dominos which uses a different recipe and you discover you actually enjoy it. That's like with church. There's different ones out there both good and bad and I'm basically just saying don't let one speak for all.
Perks of living where we live </3Let?s see, being forced into a southern baptist church my entire childhood & constantly listening to a stream of homophobic and racist remarks for almost two decades...being told I am going to hell because I?m gay...listening to people say that we should murder gay people... yeah, actually. I think that pretty much sums up why I hate church & Christianity. I know my experience with church isn?t normal, but it?s enough for me to know there is no god. Not a loving one, that?s for sure.
I just reread this and I'm not trying to be hostile. I just think it's a little weird to say people shouldn't discount a religion when they've had bad experiences with it. That's like if I said I hated seafood but was still encouraged to try more seafood because I haven't experienced everything. My prior experience with seafood will stand in that I do not like seafood.
Well, sorry you've had such a bad experience but those don't really sound like Christian people to me. The whole point is love your neighbor as you love yourself. Sexuality shouldn't affect that at all. I personally don't know the answer as to why homosexuality has so much emphasis put on as a terrible sin when there are other sins out there that are really horrible. Okay, well let's say you try a slice of pizza at Donatos and you develop a sense of dislike for pizza. However, you decide to give it a second chance and try it at another place like Dominos which uses a different recipe and you discover you actually enjoy it. That's like with church. There's different ones out there both good and bad and I'm basically just saying don't let one speak for all.
Unfortunately the problem with this is that in some areas, ALL of the churches are this way. Of course these people aren't being properly Christian or actually following the things Jesus said (love thy neighbor), but that doesn't stop them from calling themselves Christian or thinking that they are *being* good Christians. The town I grew up in was small and in the southern US, and you couldn't go five minutes down the road without seeing a church. My family didn't go to church, which meant that in some ways I was socially othered. My high school teachers knew 90% of my classmates from church, we had a church rally twice a year on our soccer field, etc etc. I was once told by a classmate that she thought I was going to go to hell because I didn't go to church and liked to wear black clothing?? When my parents go divorced my younger brother lived with his dad and his dad's girlfriend, who made him go to a Baptist church where they actively spouted homophobic rhetoric. Your analogy falls apart if you consider that some people live in an area where ALL the "pizza" places suck.
(I'm not trying to be hostile, either, I just have strong feelings about this. The older I've gotten the easier it is for me, personally, to separate actual Christians from a large majority of American "Christians" who only use the parts of the bible that suit their homophobic/xenophobic/racist views and ignore the parts that don't support them, but I know a LOT of people who were very negatively affected by church growing up purely because there *wasn't* a "better" church available)
I definitely agree that these issues exist. However, I firmly believe that LGBT people can still be Christians, as I am both myself.
Unfortunately the problem with this is that in some areas, ALL of the churches are this way. Of course these people aren't being properly Christian or actually following the things Jesus said (love thy neighbor), but that doesn't stop them from calling themselves Christian or thinking that they are *being* good Christians. The town I grew up in was small and in the southern US, and you couldn't go five minutes down the road without seeing a church. My family didn't go to church, which meant that in some ways I was socially othered. My high school teachers knew 90% of my classmates from church, we had a church rally twice a year on our soccer field, etc etc. I was once told by a classmate that she thought I was going to go to hell because I didn't go to church and liked to wear black clothing?? When my parents go divorced my younger brother lived with his dad and his dad's girlfriend, who made him go to a Baptist church where they actively spouted homophobic rhetoric. Your analogy falls apart if you consider that some people live in an area where ALL the "pizza" places suck.
(I'm not trying to be hostile, either, I just have strong feelings about this. The older I've gotten the easier it is for me, personally, to separate actual Christians from a large majority of American "Christians" who only use the parts of the bible that suit their homophobic/xenophobic/racist views and ignore the parts that don't support them, but I know a LOT of people who were very negatively affected by church growing up purely because there *wasn't* a "better" church available)
Unfortunately the problem with this is that in some areas, ALL of the churches are this way. Of course these people aren't being properly Christian or actually following the things Jesus said (love thy neighbor), but that doesn't stop them from calling themselves Christian or thinking that they are *being* good Christians. The town I grew up in was small and in the southern US, and you couldn't go five minutes down the road without seeing a church. My family didn't go to church, which meant that in some ways I was socially othered. My high school teachers knew 90% of my classmates from church, we had a church rally twice a year on our soccer field, etc etc. I was once told by a classmate that she thought I was going to go to hell because I didn't go to church and liked to wear black clothing?? When my parents go divorced my younger brother lived with his dad and his dad's girlfriend, who made him go to a Baptist church where they actively spouted homophobic rhetoric. Your analogy falls apart if you consider that some people live in an area where ALL the "pizza" places suck.
(I'm not trying to be hostile, either, I just have strong feelings about this. The older I've gotten the easier it is for me, personally, to separate actual Christians from a large majority of American "Christians" who only use the parts of the bible that suit their homophobic/xenophobic/racist views and ignore the parts that don't support them, but I know a LOT of people who were very negatively affected by church growing up purely because there *wasn't* a "better" church available)